Intake Manifold??
wow... ...ok Thanks alot guys, I was just wondering cuz i heard that the JDM ZC mani had larger ports then the USDM one so... but i could always have it honed. thanks again.
Oh & ... nevermind ill look it up then ask.
Oh & ... nevermind ill look it up then ask.
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,035
Likes: 1
From: DES MOINES, IA/ O.C., USA... EAGLE ROCK, CA
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Will this work: D15b2 block, Z6 Head, ZC intake manafold w/ injectors & rail.
If so What ECU should i use? </TD></TR></TABLE>
first determine your OBD SYSTEM ...you got two choice and its not that hard non or 1 this will determine your overall setup
a d15b2 block w/ a z6 head = you got a choice of I/M (intake manifold) you can go w/ the z6 I/M or y8 I/M w/ a combination you can use the b18a or ITR throttle body or you can use stock z6 or y8 TB ....
for the dizzy (distributor) you will need to use custom mounts (ask iastreetracing)
w/ A6 (obd-0) to a z6 or if you go w/ a y8 head you will not need custom mounts w/ a6 dizzy
or the Z6 dizzy if you choice obd-1 direct bolt on to your z6 head... duh!
for the ECU you will have a variety of choices... PM6 is the best choice for obd-0
abd p28 for obd-1
RESEARCH RESEARCH
If so What ECU should i use? </TD></TR></TABLE>
first determine your OBD SYSTEM ...you got two choice and its not that hard non or 1 this will determine your overall setup
a d15b2 block w/ a z6 head = you got a choice of I/M (intake manifold) you can go w/ the z6 I/M or y8 I/M w/ a combination you can use the b18a or ITR throttle body or you can use stock z6 or y8 TB ....
for the dizzy (distributor) you will need to use custom mounts (ask iastreetracing)
w/ A6 (obd-0) to a z6 or if you go w/ a y8 head you will not need custom mounts w/ a6 dizzy
or the Z6 dizzy if you choice obd-1 direct bolt on to your z6 head... duh!
for the ECU you will have a variety of choices... PM6 is the best choice for obd-0
abd p28 for obd-1
RESEARCH RESEARCH
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integra_gs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
first determine your OBD SYSTEM ...you got two choice and its not that hard non or 1 this will determine your overall setup
a d15b2 block w/ a z6 head = you got a choice of I/M (intake manifold) you can go w/ the z6 I/M or y8 I/M w/ a combination you can use the b18a or ITR throttle body or you can use stock z6 or y8 TB ....
for the dizzy (distributor) you will need to use custom mounts (ask iastreetracing)
w/ A6 (obd-0) to a z6 or if you go w/ a y8 head you will not need custom mounts w/ a6 dizzy
or the Z6 dizzy if you choice obd-1 direct bolt on to your z6 head... duh!
for the ECU you will have a variety of choices... PM6 is the best choice for obd-0
abd p28 for obd-1
RESEARCH RESEARCH </TD></TR></TABLE>
How much more wiring is it to go to OBD1?
first determine your OBD SYSTEM ...you got two choice and its not that hard non or 1 this will determine your overall setup
a d15b2 block w/ a z6 head = you got a choice of I/M (intake manifold) you can go w/ the z6 I/M or y8 I/M w/ a combination you can use the b18a or ITR throttle body or you can use stock z6 or y8 TB ....
for the dizzy (distributor) you will need to use custom mounts (ask iastreetracing)
w/ A6 (obd-0) to a z6 or if you go w/ a y8 head you will not need custom mounts w/ a6 dizzy
or the Z6 dizzy if you choice obd-1 direct bolt on to your z6 head... duh!
for the ECU you will have a variety of choices... PM6 is the best choice for obd-0
abd p28 for obd-1
RESEARCH RESEARCH </TD></TR></TABLE>
How much more wiring is it to go to OBD1?
Trending Topics
if you wanna run the z6 head and stay obd0, i can show you how to do it. I did a d16z6 swap in my hatch.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integra_gs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
for the dizzy (distributor) you will need to use custom mounts (ask iastreetracing)
w/ A6 (obd-0) to a z6 or if you go w/ a y8 head you will not need custom mounts w/ a6 dizzy
</TD></TR></TABLE>
He is refering to me
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integra_gs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
for the dizzy (distributor) you will need to use custom mounts (ask iastreetracing)
w/ A6 (obd-0) to a z6 or if you go w/ a y8 head you will not need custom mounts w/ a6 dizzy
</TD></TR></TABLE>
He is refering to me
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,035
Likes: 1
From: DES MOINES, IA/ O.C., USA... EAGLE ROCK, CA
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How much more wiring is it to go to OBD1?</TD></TR></TABLE>
beside using the z6 dizzy that should have came w/ z6 head and p28 ecu.. honestly can't really tell u .. i just know you do get more sensors and more expensive...
How much more wiring is it to go to OBD1?</TD></TR></TABLE>
beside using the z6 dizzy that should have came w/ z6 head and p28 ecu.. honestly can't really tell u .. i just know you do get more sensors and more expensive...
I just did a little more researching & now i thinking about running w/ the Z6 head/intake man/t.b./injectors & the ECU which i belive is a P28 w/ vtec & a rev limit of 7600 which could be bad since my B2 block can only handle 6k but good if i ever upgrade the internals,
but what my ? now is, Since i will be using the new ECU which is made for MPFI There should be outputs on the ECU that i can run wires to my new injectors right? i wont need to "make" the PM5 work right?
Also since my B2 block redlines at 6k but the p28 kicks in vtec at 4500 isnt that too soon? if so maybe i should leave the PM5 & use an aftermarket vtec controller. But then i wont have the 7600 RPM redline. What do you guys think?
but what my ? now is, Since i will be using the new ECU which is made for MPFI There should be outputs on the ECU that i can run wires to my new injectors right? i wont need to "make" the PM5 work right?
Also since my B2 block redlines at 6k but the p28 kicks in vtec at 4500 isnt that too soon? if so maybe i should leave the PM5 & use an aftermarket vtec controller. But then i wont have the 7600 RPM redline. What do you guys think?
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,035
Likes: 1
From: DES MOINES, IA/ O.C., USA... EAGLE ROCK, CA
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just did a little more researching & now i thinking about running w/ the Z6 head/intake man/t.b./injectors & the ECU which i belive is a P28 w/ vtec & a rev limit of 7600 which could be bad since my B2 block can only handle 6k but good if i ever upgrade the internals,
but what my ? now is, Since i will be using the new ECU which is made for MPFI There should be outputs on the ECU that i can run wires to my new injectors right? i wont need to "make" the PM5 work right?
Also since my B2 block redlines at 6k but the p28 kicks in vtec at 4500 isnt that too soon? if so maybe i should leave the PM5 & use an aftermarket vtec controller. But then i wont have the 7600 RPM redline. What do you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
having the b2/z6 mini-me you will have a rod/stroke ratio 1.59 better than 1.6 L (d16) which has 1.52 meaning the 1.5L will give you better stroke ratio for more high rpm... besides stock b2 block internals is capable of rpm as high as 7,800
honda designs the best stock internals.. so rev away..
cant use your PM5 ... if you are going obd-1 get P28 or if you are going obd-0 get pm6... either one you will have to use a vtec controller.. if you are cheap create you own... if you got a limited budget go for fields... or if you are a high roller go for apexi ... this way you can control when you want vtec to hit..
FYI stock VTec setting is usually 4,800 ... if you want a steady gain set it a 4,400
if you want to feel the G force set it at 5,200...
so tell use which obd system you chose... and what is your budget... so we can help you better
but what my ? now is, Since i will be using the new ECU which is made for MPFI There should be outputs on the ECU that i can run wires to my new injectors right? i wont need to "make" the PM5 work right?
Also since my B2 block redlines at 6k but the p28 kicks in vtec at 4500 isnt that too soon? if so maybe i should leave the PM5 & use an aftermarket vtec controller. But then i wont have the 7600 RPM redline. What do you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
having the b2/z6 mini-me you will have a rod/stroke ratio 1.59 better than 1.6 L (d16) which has 1.52 meaning the 1.5L will give you better stroke ratio for more high rpm... besides stock b2 block internals is capable of rpm as high as 7,800
honda designs the best stock internals.. so rev away..
cant use your PM5 ... if you are going obd-1 get P28 or if you are going obd-0 get pm6... either one you will have to use a vtec controller.. if you are cheap create you own... if you got a limited budget go for fields... or if you are a high roller go for apexi ... this way you can control when you want vtec to hit..
FYI stock VTec setting is usually 4,800 ... if you want a steady gain set it a 4,400
if you want to feel the G force set it at 5,200...
so tell use which obd system you chose... and what is your budget... so we can help you better
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integra_gs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
having the b2/z6 mini-me you will have a rod/stroke ratio 1.59 better than 1.6 L (d16) which has 1.52 meaning the 1.5L will give you better stroke ratio for more high rpm... besides stock b2 block internals is capable of rpm as high as 7,800
honda designs the best stock internals.. so rev away..
cant use your PM5 ... if you are going obd-1 get P28 or if you are going obd-0 get pm6... either one you will have to use a vtec controller.. if you are cheap create you own... if you got a limited budget go for fields... or if you are a high roller go for apexi ... this way you can control when you want vtec to hit..
FYI stock VTec setting is usually 4,800 ... if you want a steady gain set it a 4,400
if you want to feel the G force set it at 5,200...
so tell use which obd system you chose... and what is your budget... so we can help you better
</TD></TR></TABLE>
What are some pros & cons of switching to OBD1? My budget is very limited, im 21 w/ an 8mo old & my own place to pay for, Im leaning twards OBD0 but im not sure. Whats the rev limit on the PM5? Since the P28 has vtec I shouldnt need an aftermarket controller right?
having the b2/z6 mini-me you will have a rod/stroke ratio 1.59 better than 1.6 L (d16) which has 1.52 meaning the 1.5L will give you better stroke ratio for more high rpm... besides stock b2 block internals is capable of rpm as high as 7,800
honda designs the best stock internals.. so rev away..
cant use your PM5 ... if you are going obd-1 get P28 or if you are going obd-0 get pm6... either one you will have to use a vtec controller.. if you are cheap create you own... if you got a limited budget go for fields... or if you are a high roller go for apexi ... this way you can control when you want vtec to hit..
FYI stock VTec setting is usually 4,800 ... if you want a steady gain set it a 4,400
if you want to feel the G force set it at 5,200...
so tell use which obd system you chose... and what is your budget... so we can help you better
</TD></TR></TABLE>
What are some pros & cons of switching to OBD1? My budget is very limited, im 21 w/ an 8mo old & my own place to pay for, Im leaning twards OBD0 but im not sure. Whats the rev limit on the PM5? Since the P28 has vtec I shouldnt need an aftermarket controller right?
i highly recommend you stay obd0, and try out turboedit... full tunability for less than the cost of obd1... turboedit itself is free and the ecu modifications can be done for cheap
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iastreetracing.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you wanna run the z6 head and stay obd0, i can show you how to do it. I did a d16z6 swap in my hatch.
He is refering to me </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ya i think thats what i am gonna do, That requires running the PM6 right?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by green91 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i highly recommend you stay obd0, and try out turboedit... full tunability for less than the cost of obd1... turboedit itself is free and the ecu modifications can be done for cheap</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am really concidering staying OBD0 I think its easier for me, (& cheeper) but what is the rev limit/fuel cut on the PM6?
Also do i really need to do the whole TurboEdit thing? theres a lot going in my brain right now & thats making it much more difficult to think, I understand that it helps out alot but i think i shoud do the work then get it running & then look in to TurboEdit.
Thanks again guys,
He is refering to me </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ya i think thats what i am gonna do, That requires running the PM6 right?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by green91 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i highly recommend you stay obd0, and try out turboedit... full tunability for less than the cost of obd1... turboedit itself is free and the ecu modifications can be done for cheap</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am really concidering staying OBD0 I think its easier for me, (& cheeper) but what is the rev limit/fuel cut on the PM6?
Also do i really need to do the whole TurboEdit thing? theres a lot going in my brain right now & thats making it much more difficult to think, I understand that it helps out alot but i think i shoud do the work then get it running & then look in to TurboEdit.
Thanks again guys,
i am running the stock ecu and i have also ran an obdo b18 ecu, either will work fine. If you have any more questions or need pictures of anything, my AIM is: sqreenn4me. I can prolly help you with just about anything you need.
Is there any benifets or downfalls to using the y8 Intake manifold compared to the z6 mani.? Wouldnt the y8 be better since i want to stay OBD0? or does it not matter?
Modified by 90DX at 10:31 AM 7/22/2004
Modified by 90DX at 10:31 AM 7/22/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iastreetracing.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am running the stock ecu and i have also ran an obdo b18 ecu, either will work fine. If you have any more questions or need pictures of anything, my AIM is: sqreenn4me. I can prolly help you with just about anything you need. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wait... your using the PM5? I just noticed that.
well w/ my set up what ECU would giveme thebest fuel curve? probably the B18 huh?
Wait... your using the PM5? I just noticed that.
well w/ my set up what ECU would giveme thebest fuel curve? probably the B18 huh?
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,035
Likes: 1
From: DES MOINES, IA/ O.C., USA... EAGLE ROCK, CA
TALK TO IASTREETRACING VIA AIM (ABOUT THE CUSTOM MOUNTS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there any benifets or downfalls to using the y8 Intake manifold compared to the z6 mani.? Wouldnt the y8 be better since i want to stay OBD0? or does it not matter?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the intake manifold has really nothing to do w/ the obd system, you can stay non-obd and have either a y8 or z6 i/m... your first choice should be y8 i/m because of the better airflow it gives the intake chamber itself is bigger than the z6 meaning more air for more power, but if you cant get that, z6 would do fine... better than the 4g/2g civic/crx i/m...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there any benifets or downfalls to using the y8 Intake manifold compared to the z6 mani.? Wouldnt the y8 be better since i want to stay OBD0? or does it not matter?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the intake manifold has really nothing to do w/ the obd system, you can stay non-obd and have either a y8 or z6 i/m... your first choice should be y8 i/m because of the better airflow it gives the intake chamber itself is bigger than the z6 meaning more air for more power, but if you cant get that, z6 would do fine... better than the 4g/2g civic/crx i/m...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wait... your using the PM5? I just noticed that. well w/ my set up what ECU would giveme thebest fuel curve? probably the B18 huh?</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much are the mounts for the dizzy to stay OBD0?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, the b18 ecu will give you a better fuel curve.
And i charge 10$ for all 3 dizzy brackets.
Wait... your using the PM5? I just noticed that. well w/ my set up what ECU would giveme thebest fuel curve? probably the B18 huh?</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much are the mounts for the dizzy to stay OBD0?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, the b18 ecu will give you a better fuel curve.
And i charge 10$ for all 3 dizzy brackets.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integra_gs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TALK TO IASTREETRACING VIA AIM (ABOUT THE CUSTOM MOUNTS)
the intake manifold has really nothing to do w/ the obd system, you can stay non-obd and have either a y8 or z6 i/m... your first choice should be y8 i/m because of the better airflow it gives the intake chamber itself is bigger than the z6 meaning more air for more power, but if you cant get that, z6 would do fine... better than the 4g/2g civic/crx i/m...
</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok cool, Thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iastreetracing.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, the b18 ecu will give you a better fuel curve.
And i charge 10$ for all 3 dizzy brackets.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok ill hit u up on AIM
the intake manifold has really nothing to do w/ the obd system, you can stay non-obd and have either a y8 or z6 i/m... your first choice should be y8 i/m because of the better airflow it gives the intake chamber itself is bigger than the z6 meaning more air for more power, but if you cant get that, z6 would do fine... better than the 4g/2g civic/crx i/m...
</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok cool, Thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iastreetracing.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, the b18 ecu will give you a better fuel curve.
And i charge 10$ for all 3 dizzy brackets.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok ill hit u up on AIM
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
anotherstar_noz
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
8
Nov 2, 2008 06:25 PM
dryhopsux13
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
12
Nov 4, 2004 01:38 PM






