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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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My B18C5 is making a rattling/tapping noise (its not too loud like engine knocking) when I press the gas and maintain present gear (not when downshifting or upshifting); especially when going uphill. Almost sounds like the engine is going to stall. I have three questions involving engine pinging:

1)What is it? From what I hear, its the slapping sound of the connecting rod and crank journal when there's too much play.

2)What causes it? Improper spark plugs? Hard driving?

3)How can it be fixed/resolved.


Modified by PYXITR at 10:20 PM 7/15/2004
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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stop driving it now
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stop driving it now</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I would have to agree! You might want to have a mechanic look at it before you start it again.

without seeing it or hearing it I could not say what wrong.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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Hope it's not a rod knock.

When did it start? After doing something at high RPMs?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PYXITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My B18C5 is making a rattling/tapping noise (its not too loud like engine knocking) when I press the gas and maintain present gear (not when downshifting or upshifting); especially when going uphill. Almost sounds like the engine is going to die. I have three questions involving engine pinging:

1)What is it? From what I hear, its the slapping sound of the connecting rod and crank journal when there's too much play.

2)What causes it? Improper spark plugs? Hard driving?

3)How can it be fixed/resolved.</TD></TR></TABLE>


1) Is this with the stock header or an aftermarket one? Aftermarket headers resonate from the exhaust pulses in the engine at a certain rpm usu 3500 or so.

2) pinging is caused by a number of things usually inadequate octane

3) depends
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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Update: My ITR is second hand and the pinging has been present since I've had the car. Right now I am using 91 Octane Chevron Supreme, the plugs are the OEM NGK PFR6G-11. I've never taken it past redline myself but I cannot speak for the previous owner...from the looks of it he drove the car pretty hard. Besides the noise the car runs OK. It stalls after reving the engine for a little while (ie. during a collent flush)...but I thought that may be attributed to a Aftermarket lightweight FW becuase rpms drop faster. It sounds like this is some serius ****. Is there anything I specifically should test for? What could be my problem? Also, the sound was there before I did a valve adjust. The valve adjust did make my cold morning startups a bit noisy though (I'm guessing the valving train). Im using a stock, or what I thought was stock--looks like there is an LS header on my car--exhaust manifold and the TB is def. not an ITR. The intake arm side bore measures 58mm and not 66mm.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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bump...help, now you guys got me scared
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Might want to check the timing. I've seen morons turn distributors all the way and do that.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Just replaced timing belt, tensioner and water pump and then timed the engine and did a valve adjust. Engine is still making the noise. Hard to notice both inside the car and outside. Have to be listening for it.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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could be ignition...
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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I replaced sparkplugs, distrib. cap, rotor, and wires. Are you referring to the coil or something? Thanks for the input though. Can someone specify what part of the ignition system?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Is there any test I should be performing short of an engine rebuild?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stop driving it now</TD></TR></TABLE>

anytime your engine is making noise, quite driving it!!!
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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I dont have a choice. The ITR is my daily driver. The noise doesn't sound too bad, just annoying. F$@k, if the engine blows....well....the engine blows, and I'll be on the market for another B18C5. I don't really have a choice. My preference would be to fix the engine I have and if it is in fact pinging, find out what might be causing it. Any more suggestions???
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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Diagnosing engine problems over the internet is useless. Too many possible variables.

Get your car looked at by a mechanic - you have no other choices.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PYXITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

1)What is it? From what I hear, its the slapping sound of the connecting rod and crank journal when there's too much play.

Modified by PYXITR at 10:20 PM 7/15/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

My friends' celica just blew his engine at the track because of that.

Could it possible be your valve needs adjusting?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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For some reason I can't reply to the next post. Ill do it here. I already adjusted valves. The noise hasn't changed in rhythem or volume. I guess you guys are right, the only thing to do is to see the mechanic. F@$k, 120$ inspection fee...here I come. Thanks for your input guys!
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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$120 inspection fee
$a few grand for a new motor

your choice.

CHECK YOUR TIMING .... ive read through the thread and you still havent done it.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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Well if you did all the mainentce work already then all a mechanic is going to tell you is that the noise is internal and you need a rebuild....If you have done everything that you can for now just ride it and see what happens. Maybe try running a compression test to see where you are at. Perhaps use some fuel additives to clean up the system.
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