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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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*disclaimer* This is how I do it. This method has caused me no problems in several years of doing it. I do it this way because its easy, requires only myself, and I think pressure/vacuum/etc systems are a waste of money and complexity. */disclaimer*

Now, lets get started.

Put your whip on stands and take your Dayton's off



Give your poop fluid the salute



Get out your bling Motul RBF600 - 2 bottles, I order mine from HMS Motorsport, but JE Import Performance (ECHC Sponsor/Racer) sells Motul product as well (I will be ordering from James from now on)



I use vacuum t00bing from Home Despot. Tie a l00p in the t00bing with a zip tie, and set it up on the caliper like this with a catch bottle. I set it in the spokes of my Daytons, so the bottle doesnt go anywhere.



Put the cap on the master cylinder reservoir, crack the bleeder, and let gravity do its thing



I then give it a few pumps from inside the car - slow, even pressured strokes with the stopper pedal is the ticket. I will usually drain most of the master cylinder reservoir through the LF caliper before adding fresh fluid. You can use a turkey baster to get the old fluid out as well. Just remember to put the cap back on before you open the bleeder.

When you get new fluid out of the bleeder, close it up.

The order on ITR's is LF, RF, RR, LR. Repeat for each caliper, fill reservoir as needed (If it runs dry... well have fun with that).



Top off the reservoir and you're done!


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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get out your bling Motul RBF600 - 2 bottles, I order mine from HMS Motorsport, but JE Import Performance (ECHC Sponsor/Racer) sells Motul product as well</TD></TR></TABLE>

So does Andie at Cobalt. Who absolutely rocks when it comes to brake supplies. Have them ship it to you when you're buying brake pads from them.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have them ship it to you when you're buying brake pads from them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I use Carbotech pads

But Cobalt sells an excellent product as well, and Andie r0x
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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Nice writeup

What size hose is that?
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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I *think* it is 3/8" OD.

The stuff is $3 for a 20ft roll.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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whats the loop for? *scratches head*
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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might wanna double check that order.

You're always supposed to bleed from furtherest from MC to closest.

I believed the manual calls for RR, LF, LR, RF....because LF/RR are on the same line, and same with LR/RF, the must be bled simultaneously. THis is how we do it at Honda
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">might wanna double check that order.</TD></TR></TABLE>

might wanna double check your helms



<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pooface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats the loop for? *scratches head*</TD></TR></TABLE>

Air goes to the top of the loop.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I use Carbotech pads

But Cobalt sells an excellent product as well, and Andie r0x </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice writeup and pixorz RJ

Don't forget to mention Not to spill Any brake fluid on your car's paint, IE fenders and or whatnot including your bling bling wheels.

As well, in my experience, don't open the bleeder screw all the way, have heard if the screw is too loose, air can get sucked in between the threads. Just open them halfway and maintain pressure.

I also use a oneway check valve at the caliper that you can pick up for like .99 at a local pet supply/aquarium shop or in the pet department at say a Wallmart. After all my issues I like to play it safe now that it's resolved.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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thats how i do it too.....

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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">might wanna double check that order.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the order does not matter.

and you should use tygon (i think) tubing... it lasts a lot longer.

[edit] t00bing brand.


Modified by Willard at 10:32 PM 7/13/2004
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and you should use Nitrile (i think) tubing... it lasts a lot longer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Where can I get this bling?

Its so cheap at the orange place I dont mind tossing it when I'm done.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where can I get this bling?</TD></TR></TABLE>
top secret... I have my sources.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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Well bring me some @ VIR then
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Air goes to the top of the loop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice tip. Never would have thought of that, because well, I'm dumb.

PS - Nice ring, feg
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Splat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">PS - Nice ring, feg </TD></TR></TABLE>

Tran's mom likes the way it feels when I give her the shocker
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Air goes to the top of the loop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

unless the l00p is lower than the bleeder.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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Great how to Ryan!

Now go be safe and Drive Beaver this weekend and then you and I will Roll All the Hype RR'sss at the ExBlow!! w00t....
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Tran's mom likes the way it feels when I give her the shocker</TD></TR></TABLE>

*phew* only the shocker? im glad shes not kinky like my h0 (aka: mama .rj)

All this time I was worried you were throwing her the annihilator in the p00p3r like your mommy likes it...



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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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bump cause i used this method the other day
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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does the car have to be jacked up on all 4? or can you do front and back separately?
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Air goes to the top of the loop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice tip! Thanks!
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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Ive read to use DOT 5.1 instead of DOT 4? Is it just personal preference?
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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Nice writeup. I do it the same way, but with 2 persons it's much easier, so you don't have to go back and forth. Let a helper sit in the car the whole time to pump the pedal.

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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive read to use DOT 5.1 instead of DOT 4? Is it just personal preference?</TD></TR></TABLE>
RBF600 is a "super" racing DOT 4.

I use DOT 5.1.
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