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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 05:13 AM
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Default Help me i need 10WHP more !!! How have 200whp ?

Hi, my Integra actually made 190whp with my setup I/E/H, look at my signature.

What sould i install to have 10 more HP, is it possible without cams or ported header ?
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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Cams and tune would do it.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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sorry i have no input on the question....but good numbers....what kinda dyno were you on????......i hope it wasn't in tallahasse.....
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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I know we can't compare our European Dyno with your's.

My Integra give 210hp at crank (about 190whp but it's difference of the dyno model).
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 05:33 AM
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When people start talking about 200 wheel horses on the ITR, it's important to compare apples to applies.

It is possible to get to 200 wheel horses on a Dynojet w/out changing cams, but it's tough and probably requires a Hondata instead of the Mugen ECU.

Anyway, to the original user: You can probably see up to another 5 wheel horses by getting cam gears and a fuel pressure regulator and letting a good tuner have at it, even though he won't be able to tune the Mugen ECU.

If you really want to see ten more horses out of your setup then I think you should call King Motorsports and ask them what cams they'd recommend for the Mugen ECU.

(And what does "Mugen ECU <u>by</u> HRED" mean?)
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 05:52 AM
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put some spoon stickers...good for another 20 at least
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">put some spoon stickers...good for another 20 at least</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats not true.....don't lie to the man...


its only 15....now the mugen stickers on the other hand....are good for 20+
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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Thank you for responses,

Concerning my ECU, it's a stock P73 ECU, with a blank Oki 66507 flash with the Mugen N1 program, HRED is the friend who do it. We add the little mods on the ECU to match it with a full Mugen ECU.
Concerning the Tuning, i have test all the band with a WbO2 sensor, and it's really perfect, i can't believe gain any HP without touch the reliability. It's not too rich, not too lean.

The other solution is to put some camgear and tune them, but in France, nobody know enought this engine to tune it greatly.

The trird solution: stay like that lol
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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if i were you id throw in some bolt-ons that u forgot, like a different intake manifold and throttle body, also a fuel rail and breather could help. Just a suggestion, but it couldnt hurt. Then after that some ground wires, cams and good tuning, thas exactly what id do next.

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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sylvain &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The trird solution: stay like that lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
true don't mess with perfection
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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Here just look at my signature. And believe me this car pulls with all this stuff on it.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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get some cams and tune it again , like Toda spec A, skunk stage 1 or Jun
200whp shouldnt be hard to reach.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Good luck reaching the 200 mark
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sylvain &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Concerning my ECU, it's a stock P73 ECU, with a blank Oki 66507 flash with the Mugen N1 program, HRED is the friend who do it. We add the little mods on the ECU to match it with a full Mugen ECU.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This doesn't make sense to me. Please give more details....
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This doesn't make sense to me. Please give more details....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Me either,You cannot re-chip a OBD 2 Ecu from what I have always been told.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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That, plus the fact that Mugen doesn't sell chips or ECU programs.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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Tweak's Tips (v0.9...work in progress!)

Dyno-Tuning-
-Advance timing
-Check cap/rotor
-Make sure you have stock plug wires (or decent ones)
-Make sure timing belt is tight
-Might want to verify your injectors are clean
-Check tire pressures
-Change oil
-Remove PS/AC (belts)
-Get rid of stock cat, it is a HUGE bottleneck up top
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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I say u need to port the head and raise compression
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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I would definatley get a different cat or no cat at all. Some cams would do the trick too.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kengs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say u need to port the head and raise compression</TD></TR></TABLE>

for 10 hp?I think you will be good with cams and cam gears.No need to pull the head off,port it and raise the compression.Type R's already have a good flowing heads with cleaned up ports from the factory.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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I would agree with a full standalone programmable ecu like Hondata or AEM EMS might get you there on stock cams. Ditch the PS, maybe some cam gear tuning, fuel tuning, higher comp pistons...
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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whats the best method for pulling the power steering?
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Yes it's impossible to refrash an ObdII Honda ECU, but it's not impossible to buy a blank OKI chip, find a Mugen bin file and flash it.
there is some supp. mods you have do for have a complete Mugen ECU (Tansistors....).
Mugen have discontinued the ECU N1 for the DC2, so it was the solution.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rocks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would definatley get a different cat or no cat at all. Some cams would do the trick too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

doesn't test pipe = no cat
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