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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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they said it will cost alittle over 200 to refill AC for my EG. unless if i have the conversion kit which will cost alittle over 100.

anyone been through this problem? they said 94+ should be fine which mine is not.
tell me guys...
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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i take it you drive a 93 civic correct? if so that model still uses r12 which is more expensive to refill then r134.

as for the r134 retrofit, it doesnt cost no more then $10 from a local parts store. all it is, is a valve you screw onto you existing valve stem.
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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there is a kit at auto zone for 32 bucks to convert over try it
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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make sure you let out all the r12 before putting the r134a stuff in. this stuff cannot be mixed. the kit is just a fitting. i hear walmart sells it for 11 bucks. this includes the fitting hose and a can of the new stuff.
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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ok...

so its nothing more then a 100? i thot its going to be costly which i tried with the old factory one. do i have to take out my compressor? becuz i jus bought the p54 bracket and hopefully nothing like that will effect or else i rather pay 200.

o yea.. my ac was taken out becuz b18c went in. it should be fine to refill to r134?
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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You can try local auto parts store or ebay and get this freon called Freeze 12, its a substitue for R12 and then all you need is the hose which is easy to find. Autozone or Strauss doesnt carry the freon, I found it in a small auto parts for about $9 a can.
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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The best way to do is is remove the compressor. Drain all of the oil from the compressor into a measuring cup. Add the same amount of R134a compatible ester oil to the compressor and reinstall it. Remove the receiver-drier and dispose of it properly. Install a new R134a compatible receiver-drier along with an additional 1/2 ounce of ester oil. Now you can install the 134A retrofit fittings and recharge the system with R134a freon.
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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if you jsut need a charge have it hcarged with freeze12 instead of r12. its a LOT cheaper. shouldnt cost more than $30 in refrigerant to have it done plus labor.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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so looking for freeze12, i have to put it in myself?
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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i just did this on my sentra. kit was about 40 dollars for the r134a conversion kit and three bottles of refrigerant mixed with compressor oil. just have a shop drain the old refrigerant out for you before you start. my kit didn't need me to remove the compressor and drain the oil. it's really quite simple, and shops will always charge you up the *** when doing ac. good luck with it.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 05:32 AM
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for freeze12 you have to be licensed to buy it. i would go with freeze12 over a retrofit since i have done a retrofit with the little kits at the parts store, and it doesnt work as well as doing a complete retrofit with new oil, new drier and so on.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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i jus bought a retro fit kit... do i need to drain out the previous liquids in the compressor? and what else??


Modified by wizzards581 at 3:03 AM 7/22/2004
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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drain the refrigerant, the proper way to do it would be to bring it to an ac shop and they will dispose of it properly. then all thats left to do is drain the compressor oil, if you're going that route, but personally my kit didn't say to drain the compressor oil.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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yea mine didnt say to drain it out... i charged it already... used it for couple of days... works fine... nothing happend so far... to me or the car..

theres actually no oil in the compressor... cuz its been left ouside for almost a yr.. but still works fine..

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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wizards581-
you're gonna want to replace the receiver/dryer if the system has been opened to the atmosphere for a year...
r-134a also operates at a higher pressure than r-12 at the same temperatures, and a proper retrofit kit would also include a high pressure cutoff switch if the car doesn't have one already. make sure the system is equipted with one.

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you need a license to purchase r-12... you don't need a license to purchase freeze-12. freeze-12 is a epa approved alternative to r-12 that will not damage the ozone nearly as much as r-12. plus... technically, everyone needs a license to work on any automotive a/c systems, r-12 or r-134a

in perspective, $100 to retrofit a system properly from a shop is a good price for labor and parts. it's a lot cheaper than what we would charge. it'd be like... $125 just for labor.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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yea.. i bought my retro fit from autozone.. $32... and everything works fine... drove 1hr with AC on ... nothing happens.. feels cool in a black car.

shops go about $100.. luckily i did it myself.
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