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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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In my "quest" of boosting my teg , I lined up the stuff to research for , before attempting to turbo it . After getting over the , having a SOHC, engine thing , that I can boost it with no fear at 6-7psi with stock internals . My auto tranny comes to the picture now .
A lot of people told be to do an auto/manual swap , but since I do a lot of traffic I want to keep the auto. Another thing is that , a turbo spools up as u hit the accelerator right ?, and when you hit the clutch to change gear , the "cool" noice of the blow-off valve discharges the turbo. So the turbo has to spool up again . (Did I got this right or am I missing something). So having an auto , since there's no clutch , there will be no discharge , thus , no recharging charging of the turbo .

My question now is , will constant boost kill my engine ? , and what problems might come across me with the auto tranny, I mean how can I built up the tranny so it can take the boost ?

For any stupid facts , or questions I stated above , please correct me and forgive me since I'm just a noobie with not much of a knowledge yet
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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I'm not sure of the wear and tear when it comes to auto + boost. However you're right, you're constantly spooling and human error is eliminated (if you were drivin a manual) so it'll definitely haul *** BUT: your auto tranny will hold you back unless you get work done. I think the best way to get your auto tranny boost friendly is to get it professionally tuned/built. There are some shops that will take your existing auto tranny and beef it up so it and tune it to suit your needs perfectly. I'll drop some names once I get a hold of my brother (he has a better memory than I do).
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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dont get a turbo kit, u have no clue what your talking about, the turbo spools up at a certain rpm, not when u just hit the gas pedal. and the BOV doesnt just go off when u push the clutch in, its when u release pressure
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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turbo + boost would be faster, but you have to buy a bullet proof built auto trans, or else your going to strip the **** out of your gears, trust me, then you'll have no trans at all, and 2000 to buy a new one..

not sure if your asking yourself.. "well why in the hell does a supra auto-turbo not go through transmissions...?" and its simple, its trans/gears were made for it, so are every stock turbo'd auto trans car..

i was thinking about it myself, cuz i got a auto teg, and the reason i did that was because all the others were banged the **** up, and this auto was in mint condition, so i snatched it. but turbo'd auto's are faster then 5spd/6spd turbo's only because it shift's so quick, it doesn BOV so you keep boost all the time while your foot's on the gas, making up for the shifting times it takes for manual trans to do, then build up boost.

but like i said, build up the tranny or buy a pre-built tranny, which run like 2000-5000 bucks
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowr6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont get a turbo kit, u have no clue what your talking about, the turbo spools up at a certain rpm, not when u just hit the gas pedal. and the BOV doesnt just go off when u push the clutch in, its when u release pressure</TD></TR></TABLE>

turbo spools with exchaust gasses right ? , the higher rpm the engine works = &gt; more gasses , more speed on the exchaust turbine , more pressure .
Hitting the gas pedal = higher rpm = more spool (which goes to more pressure) .
The fact that I left the middle part out means no lack of knowledge it exists .

hitting the clutch the engine starts drops to idle rpm , the blow-off valve fills the place with background music .

lastly , giving information , and educating people is a
but judging fast and giving "leave the room" directions is a
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dellanooch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure of the wear and tear when it comes to auto + boost. However you're right, you're constantly spooling and human error is eliminated (if you were drivin a manual) so it'll definitely haul *** BUT: your auto tranny will hold you back unless you get work done. I think the best way to get your auto tranny boost friendly is to get it professionally tuned/built. There are some shops that will take your existing auto tranny and beef it up so it and tune it to suit your needs perfectly. I'll drop some names once I get a hold of my brother (he has a better memory than I do).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really thank you ,but it won't help giving me the names of the shops since I live outside the U.S


what kind of work can I do myself with the auto tranny ?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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my friend turbo'd his auto civic and he screwed up his tranny and ended up having to get a new car, which his civic was new at the time. the worse part is, is that the shop that did it warned him of this and tried to talk him out of doing in on his a/t, but he insist on doing it!
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luckyzz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of work can I do myself with the auto tranny ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

That question will probably be best answered by Google.com honestly.

My brother was telling me of a certain respectable company that will gladly recieve your auto tranny by mail and with your feedback they tank it up and tune it, then of course ship it back. That might be your best bet, to use a certain service like that. Either way its gonna cost money. Good luck!
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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So there's nothing I can do myself with the auto tranny ? I don't want to take it to a shop around here , coz they charge crazy amounts to even touch your car
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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have you tried lookin up level10performance.com ? they have alot of kits for Integras. Where you located ?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bspec18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you tried lookin up level10performance.com ? they have alot of kits for Integras. Where you located ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They link doesn't work .
I'm from Cyprus , South-East end of Europe
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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the BOV discharges because you release the GAS/ACCELERATOR, not because you engage the clutch. With the correct ECU mod... revs would stay up and boost will not drop out of the power band... full throttle shifting. I really don't see any advantages of a stock auto over a stock manual tranny... and I will lean towards the side of the extra power will tear up the tranny...
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Boosted Auto , better than manual ? (Bspec18)

You could buy a TCI rebuild kit, a stall convertor and a nice transmission cooler. I believe you could get much more performance out of a turbo auto and it should last longer than plane stock. You may want to have someone build you a tranny that will withstand the rigors of a turbocharger.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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http://www.levelten.com
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Don't let us get you wrong, man. Your transmission wont explode the first run with a turbo installed. You'll be able to put down some miles before the **** hits the fan - but it will. The nature with turbo is that something will always break, and thats expected. But you add in your stock auto tranny then it might become too much for any one person to handle reasonably.

Just don't go into adding boost to your auto without the plans to upgrade your auto tranny asap.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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my bro has a ls turbo on a auto trans and hes running 15.1 .. hes had it on there for almost a year and nothing has gone worng yet..but i would still say to swap the trans for a stick and then put the turbo..goodluck
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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I think the money I saved , will go for a 6-speed gbox , and then I will save up for a turbo. everything seem to discard the auto , plus buying a sport auto gbox is expensive as hell around here ($3-4k's)
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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auto turbo's are great...however, it will cost more to maintain that autotranny than it will on a manual. also to get that auto tranny moving effeciently, like they stated above, a rebuild is needed along with maybe somewhere around 3-4k stall converter, tranny oil cooler, and maybe different gearing depending on the power you'll be making.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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People , I went this morning to a mechanics garage , and asked for prices for a 5speed manual tranny , 6speed manual racing tranny. the 5speed with racing clutch and the setup will cost 350CYP , which is about 600-700$ , and the 6speed racing tranny is 500CYP which is close to 1000$ .
What do you think of the prices?

the prices include the price of the new tranny , and the mechanics cost to set it up

EDIT: to build-up my current auto tranny costs 600CYP which is 1200$ and to get
a shift-tronic spank-me-hard 6speed auto tranny costs over 1500CYP , 3000-3200$


Modified by luckyzz at 11:32 PM 6/29/2004
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luckyzz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People , I went this morning to a mechanics garage , and asked for prices for a 5speed manual tranny , 6speed manual racing tranny. the 5speed with racing clutch and the setup will cost 350CYP , which is about 600-700$ , and the 6speed racing tranny is 500CYP which is close to 1000$ .
What do you think of the prices?

the prices include the price of the new tranny , and the mechanics cost to set it up

EDIT: to build-up my current auto tranny costs 600CYP which is 1200$ and to get
a shift-tronic spank-me-hard 6speed auto tranny costs over 1500CYP , 3000-3200$

Modified by luckyzz at 11:32 PM 6/29/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>


6 speed integra? unheard of. but oh my sweet jesus i want one... id spend $1000 in the drop of a hat for a 6 spd!!!!!
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 02:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luckyzz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


hitting the clutch the engine starts drops to idle rpm , the blow-off valve fills the place with background music .

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the blow off valve releases the compressed air when the THROTTLE IS CLOSED (letting go of the long pedal on the far right ). not when the CLUTCH IS ENGAGED.


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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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I had a turboed automatic and it did not work out. I ended up killing my transmission real fast with a LS on 10psi. I also now pulling better quater mile times since I 've done the transmission swap. I can say a turboed automatic with the stock honda transmission is not a good idea. Also, to answer another one of your questions yes the automatic does blow off but you have to get in boost and let your foot off the gas.
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