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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Yeah, I know there not the fastest redlight to redlight car, but that's not what makes an R so enjoyable to drive. Anyway, I was at the shop I used to work at over the weekend messing around with my R. These two kids (17-18yr old) were talking to a friend of mine shortly after I got there. One of them kept mentioning stuff about his "friends" car and how great it was, and when the b/s ran out, he looked over at my R and said "Type-R's are not as fast as everyone thinks they are."

My friend kind of goes along with him for a min. (he has a really nice 99' si, and knows where he stands with the R) He then asks the guy what he thinks of the 5speed 3.5 Altima's. They guy says...those are damn fast.. My friend then tells him, to his R-hating dissappointment, that my car leaves it bad off the line and will hang at any speed on the interstate. (my roomates girl has one) The guy just didn't know what to say.

All the while, he never mentioned what car he had, he just talked about other people's cars. When my friend told me this later that day, I just laughed about it. I don't think anyone who hasn't owned, or at least occasionally driven an R, has a clue why there not just another teg. I'm sure some of you have similar stories, I just thought it was funny to see how people want to put down what they don't have, even if they have no idea what they are talking about.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98Itr-0448 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he just talked about other people's cars</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like a ricer.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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hahaha yeah its funny hpw some of these people are around here as well. This is the encounter i had a couple days ago.

"I had to do something to get these lugs off.
Goodyear Auto Service finally takes them off @ $42.50 for 4 lugs removed(as well as mount and balance of the 2 wheels I had to remove to replace).Grand Total=$82.40
To top it off I get the ******* of all the associates there,making coments like:

****:"Hey,are these Things Fast enough to justify all you have done to it"?
me: "well,..nothings really done to it and besides its not a Damn Drag car"
*(car is only lowered w/ Stock wheels,JDM front, J's Intake that he didn't even see etc) Realitivly Stock.
me: "whats supposed to be done to it?"
****: no answer.....(guessin because it has an R on it,that it should run 9's)
**** continues: " I see these things in here ALL the time and nothings ever "done" to em"
Me: *Still thinking to myself,...what the hell is supposed to be done to it?????*

other kids working there's comments we're like : "how long you had it..." or "what kind of motor you got in there?"

Its the ricers that I guess ruin it for everybody w/ there ACCORD Type-R Stickers and ****.It gives everyone something to talk about when it comes to Honda's and "rice Talk".But who cares what they think...
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Immaturity and ignorance are always entertaining everywhere you go.

Trust me, that same crap is also pervasive in the domestic field. Similar stories I hear from my domestic friends.

And it's always fun to see those "types" of people try something other than going fast in a straight line.

Never fails, when I pull into a gas-N-go to fill up, and there may be the obligatory gaggle of homeless youth, one of 'em has to mosey over and ask "What's done to it?" Or "What times does it run?"

Not missing a beat, dry as the desert I say; "it's almost stock and I'm relatively slow."
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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Yeah...you'll find that you find yourself running into dumbasses like that all the time. People have tried to persuade me the automatic mustang gt's can beat me in a drag, and out handle me. Just let them say what they want...
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Rs are not fast, they just a bunch of stuff very well.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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i hate when people dont give the type r the respect it deserves. the type r is clearly the best car ever made and is untouchable in every aspect. when a type r drives by people should bow down and thank the lord for having been graced by the presence of such an amazing automobile.




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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrmattski &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the type r is clearly the best car ever made and is untouchable in every aspect. when a type r drives by people should bow down and thank the lord for having been graced by the presence of such an amazing automobile.

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i dunno about that...it's ONE OF THE greatest engineered cars ever for sure. But to put it above and beyond every car ever made definately isn't accurate.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Yeah, people are just dumb animals... all ways keep that in mind
My stock type r can keep pace with our race car and that says a lot..
Let them be ignorant, less people who want to stel our cars..
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Let me beat RJ to it, first of all it's just a car. A nicely tuned example at that, but that's it! It's just a car. Not a Ferrari or Porsche, it's a Honda. I love mine but I don't inflate it into something it's not.

And second, a car is Not what is fast. It's the driver behind the wheel that is fast or slow. A car can have amazing performance potential but the nut behind the wheel is what gets things done right or wrong.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrmattski &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i hate when people dont give the type r the respect it deserves. the type r is clearly the best car ever made and is untouchable in every aspect. when a type r drives by people should bow down and thank the lord for having been graced by the presence of such an amazing automobile.
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Either you're being terribly sarcastic (for what reason I dunno) or you're looking for attention, or Both.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rs are not fast, they just a bunch of stuff very well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree, a 14.x second car is not fast. When I think fast I think at least low 13's.

However... I just ourran 3 mustangs on the highway last night in my stock ITR.
2 1997 or newer GT's and one early 90's one. We did pulls from ~60mph up.

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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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I saw this thread and being a new R owner... and having something to voice on the subject i just had to sign up. I bought an R because i think its the best sub 50,000 dollar car, and, well i wanted the best.

I was at the track the other day and got beat by an srt4 and after we were just talking and he brought up the point that the R is old school technology and that new cars like his were way better.

I couldnt believe his nerve putting down the R. Big deal his neon is faster, but its still just a neon and has no suspension, engine and chassis technology like this car has. A neon is nothing like a typeR i dont car how much he argued, the R is ten times the car his is. Even though its slower.

Some people are just out there to shittalk. And these people are the ones that have no idea about anything.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asianpersuation &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the R is ten times the car his is. Even though its slower.
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Yeah, ok...

Its just a car. There will always be something faster and cheaper. So what? Enjoy it for what it is.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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I tell everyone my car is slow, because....well, it is.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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For any 1.8L NA coupe name one car that can out handle and out run a stock ITR(the other car ahs to be stock of course). I can't think of any. The ITR is an amazing car.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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stock 92 CX's share the same chassis as your beloved R

Yeah, certain areas are strengthened, etc, but it's nothing that deserves worshipping etc
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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in present times, it is actually not so much the itr itself in a performance and mechanical form, but rather its mystique, persona and reputation that have made it an icon that you either accept or blindly deny. you have to look at it in context with the rise of what we know now as the "import culture", or pre-The Fast and the Furious

i still have a fantasy of smoking my brother's Sti without dumping 5gs in my R though, but i know that technology has moved forward. just accept the R's place in history. but for me, i'll never sell. you cant buy a reputation afterall. the ITR earned it.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lucky-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in present times, it is actually not so much the itr itself in a performance and mechanical form, but rather its mystique, persona and reputation that have made it an icon that you either accept or blindly deny. you have to look at it in context with the rise of what we know now as the "import culture", or pre-The Fast and the Furious

i still have a fantasy of smoking my brother's Sti without dumping 5gs in my R though, but i know that technology has moved forward. just accept the R's place in history. but for me, i'll never sell. you cant buy a reputation afterall. the ITR earned it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asianpersuation &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the R is ten times the car his is. Even though its slower.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactally...
The Type-R does the same 1/4 mile as a 1991 NSX.

The Type-R does the same 60-0 braking as a $225,000 Ferrari 550 Maranello

The Type-R does the same latteral acceleration as a $225,000 Ferrari 550 Maranello

The Type-R has better latteral acceleration than:
2002 BMW M3
2002 Acura NSX
2002 Chevrolet Corvette

Yet I would consider all the cars above as better than the ITR. Just because a car can beat another can in one performance aspect means nothing. If it did, jeffro in his 1980 Ford F150 with the 460ci would have a "better" ride than the guy in the ferrari.

As far as the ITR having old technology, thats not true either. The neon makes power via a turbo. Thats nothing new. Turbos have been around forever.


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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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I doubt the R has the same time as a 91 nsx.
As for braking that might be true on the first time u hit the brakes cuz the stock pads of the R SUCK big time when they get hot.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactally...
The Type-R does the same 1/4 mile as a 1991 NSX.

The Type-R does the same 60-0 braking as a $225,000 Ferrari 550 Maranello

The Type-R does the same latteral acceleration as a $225,000 Ferrari 550 Maranello

The Type-R has better latteral acceleration than:
2002 BMW M3
2002 Acura NSX
2002 Chevrolet Corvette

Yet I would consider all the cars above as better than the ITR. Just because a car can beat another can in one performance aspect means nothing. If it did, jeffro in his 1980 Ford F150 with the 460ci would have a "better" ride than the guy in the ferrari.

As far as the ITR having old technology, thats not true either. The neon makes power via a turbo. Thats nothing new. Turbos have been around forever.


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Compare apples to apples, not oranges.

(starting to sound like Ken but, also beginning to understand where he speaks from).

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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactally...
The Type-R does the same 1/4 mile as a 1991 NSX.

The Type-R does the same 60-0 braking as a $225,000 Ferrari 550 Maranello

The Type-R does the same latteral acceleration as a $225,000 Ferrari 550 Maranello

The Type-R has better latteral acceleration than:
2002 BMW M3
2002 Acura NSX
2002 Chevrolet Corvette

Yet I would consider all the cars above as better than the ITR. Just because a car can beat another can in one performance aspect means nothing. If it did, jeffro in his 1980 Ford F150 with the 460ci would have a "better" ride than the guy in the ferrari.

As far as the ITR having old technology, thats not true either. The neon makes power via a turbo. Thats nothing new. Turbos have been around forever.


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good point
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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and a hater. isn't it funny that the people that talk the most **** never seem to ddrive anything fast. kinda wierd.........
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.Fairlady &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahaha yeah its funny hpw some of these people are around here as well. This is the encounter i had a couple days ago.
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I had one of these encounters as well last night......... actually i have them every night!

Me and a buddy decided to go to a local hangout where a few ppl run down from philly. One of the locals (92 lx mustang 373's, bolt on stuff = 14.7 sec car) said something about a civic i told him that was somewhat built and turbo'd: Man i aint skeerd of no turbo car Well by the end of the night they lined up and the civic beat him bad.

Back at the diner the domestic crowd said nothing but: If it didnt have the turbo **** it wouldnt be **** I kept my mouth shut but all i could think about was, why in the hell would they knock a turbo 1.8 ?? i mean they have a huge displacement advantage as it is........ the turbo just makes up for the difference IMO...........
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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.. there are far too many of those type of ppl. in our neighborhoods haha.
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