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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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within the summer im hoping to complete my the suspension on my car. But i still have yet to purchase a rear strut. Its a toss up between EM Racing and Jspec. Which would i benefit the most from? If I go EM, it would be the strut and Triangulated Trunk Bar. If i go Jspec, there strut is already a square that connects to 4 parts of the trunk. Does anyone have these bars on their car ? Noticable difference? TIA. Pictures Below


This is the EM Racing Strut and Triangulated Trunk Bar


Here's a diagram of how the Jspec square strut would look


sorry for the big pictures.
keep in mind that this will be going on a 98 coupe
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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neither will help you suspension those wont do **** there JDM bling mods
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">neither will help you suspension those wont do **** there JDM bling mods
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what he said, you'd be best off getting a solid upper strut bar, and a lower tie bar, all of which will probly be the same cost as the "jdm" thing.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2thousandcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> what he said, you'd be best off getting a solid upper strut bar, and a lower tie bar, all of which will probly be the same cost as the "jdm" thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah what he also said, if you want to stiffen the rear your best bet is a weld in roll cage but keep it to 4pt because i heard a 6ptroll cage gets to drastic street driving and isn't there roll cages so that you can keep your rear interior?
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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the rear lower makes much more difference than a rear upper. For the top get any fabricator to weld a piece of 4130 across them and two support bars down to the bumper rails

I like the neuspeed rear lower in black powder coat BTW
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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just get a normal ******* strut bar and save your money
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Uphill.Specialist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">within the summer im hoping to complete my the suspension on my car. But i still have yet to purchase a rear strut. Its a toss up between EM Racing and Jspec. Which would i benefit the most from? If I go EM, it would be the strut and Triangulated Trunk Bar. If i go Jspec, there strut is already a square that connects to 4 parts of the trunk. Does anyone have these bars on their car ? Noticable difference? TIA. Pictures Below


This is the EM Racing Strut and Triangulated Trunk Bar


Here's a diagram of how the Jspec square strut would look


sorry for the big pictures.
keep in mind that this will be going on a 98 coupe
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dont listen to the haters that responded, both of them will work, but the one that looks better is the jspec one (SUMMIT to be correct) and works better because that it actually bolts to support points on the frame of your car, good luck.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVTEC-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dont listen to the haters that responded.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haters? they actually spoke the truth. money could be spent elsewhere, but to each his own

wheres skyeC? lol i believe he has the picture from their site that talks about their bars assisting in maintaining camber.


Modified by JaeOne3345 at 11:34 PM 6/24/2004
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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how much is the e m racing one and where can yopu get it at, i would go with that one
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVTEC-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dont listen to the haters that responded, both of them will work, but the one that looks better is the jspec one (SUMMIT to be correct) and works better because that it actually bolts to support points on the frame of your car, good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haters?

explain to me how something like this is going to prevent defelection? it isn't its just going to deflect along the lines of those bars!!!

fuckn **** im not hating im just trying to help a guy save some money who is actually interested in PERFORMANCE not some JDM jungle gym bull **** with enough joint in it that a fuckn 2 year old baby could make it flex
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

haters?

explain to me how something like this is going to prevent defelection? it isn't its just going to deflect along the lines of those bars!!!

fuckn **** im not hating im just trying to help a guy save some money who is actually interested in PERFORMANCE not some JDM jungle gym bull **** with enough joint in it that a fuckn 2 year old baby could make it flex</TD></TR></TABLE>

Word.

Uphill.Specialist: Why dont you ask this question in the road race/autocross forum. I am sure you'd get even more educated real world responses.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:52 PM
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there will be some "new" em racing style type of bars for 1/2 the price.... keep an eye out... itll be out in a lil while...
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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**** 'JDM Bling'. it aint even about that. im looking for something that will improve the stiffeness of my car. any suggestions on what brands i should be looking at ? thanx guys
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JaeOne3345 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wheres skyeC? lol i believe he has the picture from their site that talks about their bars assisting in maintaining camber. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That **** is hilarious.

The Jspec bars look like they might actually help chassis stiffness a little though...looks rather like the 4pt. braces for the front of the car that a few companies sell.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:42 AM
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http://www.importbuilders.com makes great upper/lower strut bars. great price, great quality! check them out!
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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the coupe/sedan platfrom is a lot more stable than the hatchback one... these bars are good for hatchbacks, NOT for coupes and sedans. The trunk structure and the fixed back glass gives us the rigidity we need over the hatchback. spend $ elsewhere.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">neither will help you suspension those wont do **** there JDM bling mods
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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what kind of coilovers/struts do you have installed right now, and what sway bars
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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Fock it.
dont buy ANYTHING.

keep your car mostly stock and enjoy it.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 06:28 AM
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For around the same amount of money you're going to spend on all those em racing bars, you could just get an autopower rollbar which will make more of a difference.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fock it.
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why would he do that?? he wants his car to handle, hes looking into suspension modifications, and hes requesting suggestions, YOU keep your car stock and enjoy it, if thats what you like.

to uphill.specialist, buy a strut bar that is one piece, and welded, not the threaded 5 piece style, also i have seen an upper brace, not sure what its called, on integra's not even sure if they will fit civics or not, but when i talked to the guy he said it made a noticable decrease in body roll..dont see how, but i guess every lil frame reinforcement does a little more than the last, IMO all the lower tie bars are created equal, if you dont have sway bars yet, invest in those before you invest a lot in strut bars. if its the EM and Jspec you are set on, i think the EM will do better because of its triangualated design, the square design i think wont do much, you dont really need forward and aft braces, since that part of your chassis does not flex that much, and a square is a weaker design than a triangle.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVTEC-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dont listen to the haters that responded, both of them will work, but the one that looks better is the jspec one (SUMMIT to be correct) and works better because that it actually bolts to support points on the frame of your car, good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

SERIOUSLY THOSE BARS AIN'T EVEN FOR THE JDM BLING FOR ALL YOU SO CALLED JDM-****** WHO THINK ITS JDM CAUSE ITS A FAD........HE JUST WANTS TO KNOW IF ITLL STIFFIN UP HIS CAR,----"BY THE WAY THE EM-RACING BARS WORK" NOT TO SURE ABOUT THE SUMMIT ONE, NEVER CAME ACROSS A SET....BUT FOR THE EM BARS
HERES A PIX OF MY HOMIES COUPE
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Looks like Zorro struck again...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ExcelcivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much is the e m racing one and where can yopu get it at, i would go with that one</TD></TR></TABLE>
emracing.com talk to mark he is a good guy, and very helpful
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