NASA at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18!
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NASA at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18!
The OH/IN Region of NASA will be at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18. Two days of all HPDE groups, comp school, double sprint race, and a Three Hour Endurance race into the twilight! Registration is open at http://www.nasaproracing.com, and the event schedule and other information are available at the region website http://www.racenasa.com or email mansier@zoominternet.net
This was a great event last year. We hope to see you there in 2004!
LM
This was a great event last year. We hope to see you there in 2004!
LM
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Re: NASA at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18! (Mansier)
What's everyone's opinion on Gingerman? I am most likely going, but I honestly know nothing of the track besides it is in Michigan. Fast, slow, technical, easy? Tips?
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Re: NASA at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18! (GSpeedR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSpeedR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's everyone's opinion on Gingerman? I am most likely going, but I honestly know nothing of the track besides it is in Michigan. Fast, slow, technical, easy? Tips? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Speed - medium (three semi-long straights, none of which is as long as many straights elsewhere; two other places that can also be used as short passing zones)
Difficulty/technical - easy to learn, somewhat more difficult to master; a couple of combination turns (5-6 and 7-8-9), but no blind turns or dramatic camber; elevation changes are minimal; fairly short (11 turns, 1.8 miles)
It's a terrific track for novices, because there's tons of runoff room and nothing to hit. It's still fun for experienced folks to come back to.
Other factors - it's easily accessible to the interstate (6 miles down the road from the I-196 interchange) and to a cluster of four new hotels at the interchange (although they are somewhat expensive in season); it's a resort community so there are a bunch of decent restaurants in all price ranges. Especially convenient for folks in Chicago (110 miles away).
Speed - medium (three semi-long straights, none of which is as long as many straights elsewhere; two other places that can also be used as short passing zones)
Difficulty/technical - easy to learn, somewhat more difficult to master; a couple of combination turns (5-6 and 7-8-9), but no blind turns or dramatic camber; elevation changes are minimal; fairly short (11 turns, 1.8 miles)
It's a terrific track for novices, because there's tons of runoff room and nothing to hit. It's still fun for experienced folks to come back to.
Other factors - it's easily accessible to the interstate (6 miles down the road from the I-196 interchange) and to a cluster of four new hotels at the interchange (although they are somewhat expensive in season); it's a resort community so there are a bunch of decent restaurants in all price ranges. Especially convenient for folks in Chicago (110 miles away).
Re: NASA at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18! (GSpeedR)
I went for the first time last weekend. First HPDE I've ever done.
I like the shortness of the course. That way, I didn't have to beat up the car so much to get to the turns. A friend who drove his RSX-S thought that the course was too short and felt over-extended in 2nd and bogged down in 3rd, but felt just fine at Putnam Park, which doesn't feel so tight.
There were a couple of turns (3 and 10 I believe), where the apex is so late that I had trouble finding the proper line until an instructor showed me his preferred fast line. Even then, it took a few laps to get used to not being able to visualize where the apex was (and where to start my turn-in to exit was) while going through the turn since it was so late into the turn.
Turns 1 and 11 are fun.
There's no way you couldn't have fun doing the event.
I like the shortness of the course. That way, I didn't have to beat up the car so much to get to the turns. A friend who drove his RSX-S thought that the course was too short and felt over-extended in 2nd and bogged down in 3rd, but felt just fine at Putnam Park, which doesn't feel so tight.
There were a couple of turns (3 and 10 I believe), where the apex is so late that I had trouble finding the proper line until an instructor showed me his preferred fast line. Even then, it took a few laps to get used to not being able to visualize where the apex was (and where to start my turn-in to exit was) while going through the turn since it was so late into the turn.
Turns 1 and 11 are fun.
There's no way you couldn't have fun doing the event.
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Re: NASA at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18! (nsxtasy)
i guess if i had a home track it would be gingerman. the track is in great shape not one single patch of concrete, other than at track out on a few corners. very smooth except for turn 9, has a bit of a washboard since is' the quickest turn on the course. turn 2 is by far the most difficult followed by turn 6.
as others have mentioned it is one of the safest courses in the US. there are really only 1 place you can get yourself in trouble: at turn 11 is where pit-in is so there is armco. i have see a few people total their car at turn 6 but i just don't understand why. if you drop a wheel off at track out of turn six and fight it you can get shot across the track and hit the berm.
it is deceptively hard on brakes because each of the 3 straights is so short there is not much time to cool the brakes down. max speed in a somewhat stock type-r is 95mph between turns 10 and 11.
if you get to the track early you have a chance at one of the 8 carports. i like to pit on the access road around turn 2 because there are a number of trees you can use for shade.
if you're gonna do the NASA event and can take friday off there is a speedtrial event on the 16th. a good number of the type-r guys here will be there, myself included.
as others have mentioned it is one of the safest courses in the US. there are really only 1 place you can get yourself in trouble: at turn 11 is where pit-in is so there is armco. i have see a few people total their car at turn 6 but i just don't understand why. if you drop a wheel off at track out of turn six and fight it you can get shot across the track and hit the berm.
it is deceptively hard on brakes because each of the 3 straights is so short there is not much time to cool the brakes down. max speed in a somewhat stock type-r is 95mph between turns 10 and 11.
if you get to the track early you have a chance at one of the 8 carports. i like to pit on the access road around turn 2 because there are a number of trees you can use for shade.
if you're gonna do the NASA event and can take friday off there is a speedtrial event on the 16th. a good number of the type-r guys here will be there, myself included.
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Re: NASA at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18! (lanceh)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanceh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turn 9
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Only if you don't consider turn 4 to be a turn, Lance...
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Only if you don't consider turn 4 to be a turn, Lance...
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Re: NASA at Gingerman Raceway July 17-18! (nsxtasy)
Yeah. Turn 4 is flat-out. No lift.
You have to get turn 8 just right in order to set you up properly for turn 9 at full throttle.
You have to get turn 8 just right in order to set you up properly for turn 9 at full throttle.
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