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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Switched during parc fermme! A bunch of Ninjas made their way into the F1 holding area, swicthed the cars between Sato and Button. Button retires and Sato races to the podium.
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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Well at one point... Sato was on Schumi's spoiler...

A few laps later... it was 2 Hondas on his tail

But I guess this kinda sums it up (Super spoiler... don't look past this)



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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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nice pics

can we have one of Sato on the podium?!
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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I had grass seats... not big $$$ ones.... Good for the race, not so good for the podium.
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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Beautiful day for F1 but couldn't believe it got yellow flagged 2x in the 1st 10 laps or so


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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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Why is it that Marlboro was not allowed to have their name on the Ferrari but Lucky Strike, Mild Seven, and Benson and Hedges were allowed on their respective cars?

Eventful race overall. Glad to here Schumacher is OK.

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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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How much did the grass seats cost?
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aahj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why is it that Marlboro was not allowed to have their name on the Ferrari but Lucky Strike, Mild Seven, and Benson and Hedges were allowed on their respective cars?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because Marlboro already has a sponsorship presence with a race team/series in the U.S.
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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$60
One of the few times the cheapest seat in the house is also the best.
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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Goddamn, what a fuckup by the FIA and the event organizers.

Montoya getting black flagged was retarded, because, as David Hobbs was saying, if the FIA knew the rules they should've pulled him on lap 2.

Ralf being left out there for so long scared the **** out of me...I'm so glad that it looks like he was alright. If I was MS, heads would be rolling right now for not taking action a LOT sooner.

That race was a regular circus...
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 02:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aahj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why is it that Marlboro was not allowed to have their name on the Ferrari but Lucky Strike, Mild Seven, and Benson and Hedges were allowed on their respective cars?

Eventful race overall. Glad to here Schumacher is OK.

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The other companies did not sign the agreement with the US Attorney General regarding the restriction of tobacco ad/sponsorship to one sport/series. It's a complicated relationship. Imperial Tobacco markets Player's cigarettes in Canada, but Marlboro's parent company is the US distributor of Player's in the US. That's why Marlboro gets to keep their livery while the Forsythe Champ Car team had to revert to a "Team Players.ca" livery while racing in the US.

Souza Cruz is a South American tobacco company owned by BAT. One of their brands is "Hollywood" and a few years ago there were three Hollywood cars, 2 in CART (Luis Garcia Jr and Tony Kanaan) and 1 in the IRL (Felipe Giaffone). The Hollywood brand does not have an official presence in the US and that is why they were allowed to sponsor cars in both series.

If you remember the 2000 Indy 500, Penske had to remove "Marlboro" from the sidepods of his Dallaras, though they were allowed on the uniforms of the team since the official team name is "Marlboro Team Penske". Penske was primarily a Champ Car team in 2000. Because they became an IRL team in 2001, they were allowed to keep the Marlboro livery since Marlboro did not have a presence in any other series in the US.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 04:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manveer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ralf being left out there for so long scared the **** out of me...</TD></TR></TABLE>

They made NASCAR's emergency response time seem top notch

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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Was it ever explained how Michael got out in front of everyone else on his first stop? I managed to miss that.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 04:54 AM
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check this thread https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=900367

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 05:01 AM
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If it's not against the rules I guess you can't blame them for doing it but I lose more and more respect for Ferrari every year.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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If it's not against the rules I guess you can't blame them for doing it but I lose more and more respect for Ferrari every year.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why? Like you said, it wasn't against the rules. F1 is a team sport. It's not Ferrari's fault they play it better than anybody else.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 05:19 AM
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Why? Like you said, it wasn't against the rules. F1 is a team sport. It's not Ferrari's fault they play it better than anybody else.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know man... it's just seems wrong. I mean, I know winning is winning and ultimately that translate to money but some things just seem like they're in bad faith. Pulling a cell phone out of the uprights' padding isn't against the rules but it's just poor sportsmanship. I know it's not the same thing but meh... nevermind. I'm sick and I can't form a complete thought right now. It just seems like a bitch move, that's all.

At the risk of sounding like a banwagoner, I've really started to open my eyes to Sato since Monacco.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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I took some 420 pictures this weekend. Including some of Sato and the Ferrari pair spraying each other on the podium. (seats are about 40 feet away) I will try to throw some up here in the next day or so.

Schumacher/Ferrari I feel anticipated the 2nd safety car period when Ralf's crash happened, and pulled him in (no confirmation, but it seemed a little early for a stop) This was the norm in NASCAR/CART before they would close the pits, so Ferrari was on top of strategy. Bingo. Free stop.

the 3 min it took to get to Ralf, who looked to be not moving and at least unconcious in the car was sick. Watkins left for the scene about a min after, and may be a great Doctor, but let some pros handle the response. (meaning the Indianapolis/Speedway fire department that works Brickyard and the 500)

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 05:56 AM
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It didn't help that Watkins had to go all the way around the track. Speaks highly of strategically placing emergency vehicles around the track for the quickest response possible.

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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Yea..F1 is pretty progressive in terms of safety, but they dropped the ball here. Watkins could have jogged down pit road and hopped the wall faster than he made it around..why even send him that way?

Still I think more pressing is that the "regular" Indy 500/B 400 crews should be on hand for a crash in that section.

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 06:55 AM
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What a show by FIA!
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Question...

How come all the cars with tobacco sponsorship had their respective logos omitted except BAR Honda/Lucky Strike?
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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check Outrun's reply in this thread

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brian*Blue95M3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check Outrun's reply in this thread

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d'oh!
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