Well, the GSR is running like a champ, so I might as well just go for it!! Heres the setup...
89 crx si
-95 obd1 jdm sir-g (gsr) engine
-gsr jdm lsd s80 tranny (hydro)
-usdm p72 ecu
-crx air box
-xsi teg intake arm
-64mm throttle body
-skunk2 IM (I have the sticker)
-dc header (under factory heat shield)
-stock crx cat
-greddy exhaust

X-your fingers for me!!!
Does anyone see any reason why I wouldnt pass? Dont say "its a jdm engine" that really dosent matter, its obd1. Ryan

 

not sure, but aren't you supposed to use the air box that goes with the engine?

 

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It would be tought to make it fit.

 

Ya, you are, and the intake pipe. I hope that they wont notice... But the skunk2 manifold screws everything up, you cant use a gsr intake arm in a gsr with skunk2 IM, you need a type r. So the fact that im using a xsi one should be ok, I guess, lol. Ryan

 

The only problem I would maybe see is that DC header chillin' under the heat shield. Does the DC have a CARB#? If it does, then I wouldnt worry about it.

And about the air-box, I think the crx airbox would look WAY more stock than anything else. You'd have to try too hard to get another one to fit right. Unless there are any sensors on the gsr intake pipe or anything, there shouldnt be a problem.

Good luck man! I cant wait to get mine going..

 

ya, the dc has a carb, but its for a 99-00 civic si... well see. And yes I agree with the air box thing. A gsr airbox would be a hackjob. No sensors to worry about.

Oh ya, good luck on the gsr swap man. Are you gunna REF it?

 

Yeah, definitely gonna REF it. Too many people go outlaw and have to worry every time they see a cop. I wanna be able to gladly pop my hood if I'm asked. I just started working at the honda dealer here so hopefully I can get some money soon to finish it up..

 

if the ref is a dick, then you're going to fail for sure.

 

correct me if im wrong but wouldn't you fail the visuals if you don't have the evap canister hooked up, egr valve setup, and miscellaneous other parts . im planning on getting my h22 accord done pretty soon. good luck.


another thing how did you get your stock heat shield covering up your dc header?? custom welded brackets?

 

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I'm pretty sure he has it hooked up exactly like a USDM b18c1, so no, he wouldnt fail visual.

Technically the ref could fail people for a lot of things.. like the wrong transmission being bolted on, but a lot of them dont care about having a cable tranny on it. I think the same thing goes for stuff like the airbox. An airbox is an airbox. As long as there arent any sensors to worry about, it shouldnt matter.

 

ok

 

Ya, exactly. And my header has custom brackets.

edit: Well, if he is a dick I will fail... He could fail for intake setup, charcol canister is from a crx, and evap is from a crx. But more than likely he will be cool enough, and if hes not I will just go to another station. Ryan

 

and the result??

 

sounds good...i had everything you had except i had a stock double butterfly IM...pass just fine with the JDM b18c

 

It sure sounds like you've covered all of the bases.
I failed my first pass at getting a BAR sticker. The ref was cool and told me that a new cat would probably put me within spec for the 94 del sol b16 I had. He was right. A retest is free btw, in case you didn't know.
I also had an injen short ram with a CARB EO# and it wasn't a problem, except that I didn't have a hose clamp on the breather hose going from the valve cover back to the intake. I imagine any oem intake will be fine.
Make sure the EO#'s are on the various aftermarket pieces, and take any documentation that you might have to back it up.
REF's definitely vary as far as what they're looking for.
Best of luck. I hope you get your sticker.

 

Good luck Ryan. still getting my swap sorted so I'm a little behind you. Hey if you fail on the airbox I have the stock GSR setup on my car that you can borrow. I relocated my battery to the rear so it fits. Which Ref are you going to?

 

I think you'll pass....if not, you have 3 tries. I failed twice til I replaced my CAT, O2 (4 wire).

*the 64 TB might be a problem, but as long as its not aftermarket.

 

All right guys... Here is the deal. I went to the REF in Salinas at Hartnell College. They approved everything!!! Visual is 100% they didnt trip on anything. They were very helpful, but the guy couldn’t drive my car, lol. He stalled prolly 8 times. It was ridiculous. He just said... "thats a touchy clutch" haha. They were very knowledgeable with my specific application, and new all my modifications.

BUT!!!

I didnt pass the HC at idle????
Allowable is 100, and I was putting down 306!!

Here is my theory... I am really stupid and a used VW Jetta 4 wire o2 sensor. After doing some research, I came to the conclusion that the one that I purchased (for only 5 bux) was a after cat sensor. Could this be the problem...

Also, the guy who was in charge said a crx came in with the same swap, but it was a usdm engine, and he failed the same way. He said that he changed his fuel pump, and it lowered the HC's drastically. He said that possibly the gsr needs more flow than the crx pump can handle.

Any truth to this?

Here are all the numbers...
HC idle=max 100, actual 306 CO=idle max 1.00, actual .09
HC 2,500rpm =max 130, actual 116 CO2,500rpm=max 1.00, actual .29

Please help, Ryan

 

Good to hear you passed!!!
as far as help, I don't know what to say but try the G2P stuff from CRC industries

 

Sup Ryan! At least you passed the hardest part. The O2 could certainly be the problem or part of it. You should be able to get a bosch one from autozone for around 75 bucks. Also, did you run any type of fuel injector cleaner through the systems before the test? If not, run some cheveron fuel injector cleaner through one tank of gas. Them refill for the test. Besure you also use a 87 octane, reset the timing before the test and also reset the ECU. Also how old is your CAT? That would also be the problem but if the cat was really bad the HC levels would be much higher.

There is no way in hell the fuel pump is the problem, that guy is a moron. Another trick you can do is run some water through the engine. All you do is unplug a vacuum line from the intake manifold with the car running. Then feed a little bit of water through the hose. It should cause the car to bog a little, just feather the throttle while you feed water into the engine. This really works great to clean the deposits from the inside of the engine. Don't worry about hydro-lock with the engine too, you have to actually submerge the intake for that to happen.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by droppedcrxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All right guys... Here is the deal. I went to the REF in Salinas at Hartnell College. They approved everything!!! Visual is 100% they didnt trip on anything. They were very helpful, but the guy couldn’t drive my car, lol. He stalled prolly 8 times. It was ridiculous. He just said... "thats a touchy clutch" haha. They were very knowledgeable with my specific application, and new all my modifications.

BUT!!!

I didnt pass the HC at idle????
Allowable is 100, and I was putting down 306!!

Here is my theory... I am really stupid and a used VW Jetta 4 wire o2 sensor. After doing some research, I came to the conclusion that the one that I purchased (for only 5 bux) was a after cat sensor. Could this be the problem...

Also, the guy who was in charge said a crx came in with the same swap, but it was a usdm engine, and he failed the same way. He said that he changed his fuel pump, and it lowered the HC's drastically. He said that possibly the gsr needs more flow than the crx pump can handle.

Any truth to this?

Here are all the numbers...
HC idle=max 100, actual 306 CO=idle max 1.00, actual .09
HC 2,500rpm =max 130, actual 116 CO2,500rpm=max 1.00, actual .29

Please help, Ryan
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At idle, the crx pump should be more than plenty- it's only when you start maxing out injector duty cycle that the stock pump might not be enough. It's a moot point anyway because high HC at idle usually means you're running rich and it's sniffing unburnt/not catalized fuel. So your original hunch about the o2 is probably right on the money...or your cat might need to be replaced.

congrats on the visual! I'll probably hit you up for help (if you don't mind) one of these days when I finally decide to do a b18c swap in my rex

 

Allright guys, thanks for all the help.

Hey Noah, good to se ya around again!! Ya, I need to do that Chevron fuel injector cleaner, I was actually thinking about that for a while now. I did it on my b16a, but not yet on the 18. I reset the ecu, and checked the timing, but are you sure about the 87 octaine? That seems dangerious on a 10.6 compression engine. Let me know though. My cat is original, but it passed on my b16a last year, and my numbers were low.

Ya, im purdy sure that the 02 sensor is to blame, that or my cat.

Hey Advil, fell free to contact me!! Ryan

 

I wouldn't run 87 every day, but 87 burns a little hotter than the higher octanes. However, if you changed the O2 and cleaned the fuel system out, I'm, sure 91 will be fine.

 

Allright, sounds good. Ya, I need an oil change in the next couple weeks, so while im at it I will put that new o2 on, and run the cleaner. I should be good to go. Ryan

 

Congratulations Ryan!!! Even if you have another issue to resolve, you have done what others have just complained about!!!

As stated in one of the other posts, try the generic Bosch O2 sensor, that's what I did. (although I still havn't had my b18c sniffed) On the stock GSR, it is mounted between the header flange and the cat (if unclear, e-mail me)

Another possible problem could be that the combination of both the DC headers and Skunk2 intake, it's slightly beyond the stock fuel curve. If I run into this, I'm going to get one of the Hondata S100 kits. It's totally internal within the ECU. You could then have the fuel map modified to pass smog. (and also have a "fun" chip that you swap in afterwords)

Wes