well im sure all you guys seen that bastard on t.v selling that TORNADO insert for the intake system that is supposed to spin air around in your intake tube, making for a better a/f ratio and giving you better gas mileage and more hp/tq...

well does it actually work, whats ur guys opinions on that? i keep seeing it and thinking i wanna get it, but i could use 30-60 bucks for something better...BUT IT KEEPS PULLING ME IN...

can it be used in a metal intake pipe? or intergraded into the pipe somehow, or is it just used for oem intake pipe?


please dont flame either, im just wondering about this thing if its a true piece or gimick?

 

well, hot rod magazine called it a great product. i imagine it could give some better gas mileage, but it doesn't seem worth that $60 price tag. i really dont see how its going to help performance, because the air can't spin once it splits up in the manifold runners, plus the combustion chamber isn't designed to spin air like a tornado. i think it would hurt performance simply because your blocking the air a little more thats coming in. i'd say pass on that piece, i think the thing is a gimmick.

 

Complete BS. All it will do is create an air flow restriction in your intake arm and you will probably be sacraficing some throttle response.

Think about it this way... It is just another guy trying to get rich quick off some stupid invention. just my .02.

 

(in wacky japanese super excited voice)

BUUUUUUULLLSHIIIIIITTTTT.... ONE HUNDRED %

 

Its worthless. There were like a million posts about how this thing doesnt work, it just restricts air.

 

I would still like to see someone spend the money and dyno it
Then send the results to the maker ONLY AFTER posting them! lol

 

It isn't entirely BS.

For instance, think about a carburated (sp) engine. Anything you can do to atomize the fuel better is good. So for carburators then it's a benefit.

I don't see how it could work for our engines (fuel injected), but a friend of mine has a 2000 Pontiac Grand Am and bought one of those. On a drive from Washington State to Utah he usually used 5 tanks of gas and after installing the tornado he used 3 1/2. He is too much of an idiot to calculate before and after fuel mileage though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ThePro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It isn't entirely BS.

For instance, think about a carburated (sp) engine. Anything you can do to atomize the fuel better is good. So for carburators then it's a benefit.

I don't see how it could work for our engines (fuel injected), but a friend of mine has a 2000 Pontiac Grand Am and bought one of those. On a drive from Washington State to Utah he usually used 5 tanks of gas and after installing the tornado he used 3 1/2. He is too much of an idiot to calculate before and after fuel mileage though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, that's because his car is GM. If you change out the IM for a cereal box, it probably would peform better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ThePro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It isn't entirely BS.

For instance, think about a carburated (sp) engine. Anything you can do to atomize the fuel better is good. So for carburators then it's a benefit.

I don't see how it could work for our engines (fuel injected), but a friend of mine has a 2000 Pontiac Grand Am and bought one of those. On a drive from Washington State to Utah he usually used 5 tanks of gas and after installing the tornado he used 3 1/2. He is too much of an idiot to calculate before and after fuel mileage though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so it kinda works then?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ThePro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It isn't entirely BS.

For instance, think about a carburated (sp) engine. Anything you can do to atomize the fuel better is good. So for carburators then it's a benefit.

I don't see how it could work for our engines (fuel injected), but a friend of mine has a 2000 Pontiac Grand Am and bought one of those. On a drive from Washington State to Utah he usually used 5 tanks of gas and after installing the tornado he used 3 1/2. He is too much of an idiot to calculate before and after fuel mileage though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm inclined to think your friend is a dumbass

hypothetically, if something like the tornado could be put in the intake ducts to raise fuel economy by 5-20% as they claim, why don't ANY car companies just do that? it's a 2$ piece of metal (if that), and it would make any car suddenly more fuel efficient than they are normally. instead they work on hugely complicated projects like 6 and 7 speed auto's and cylinder deactivation to get what this device claims it can do.

but no one (NO ONE) is doing that. i'm pretty sure i can trust the engineering of every single car manufacturer in the world over their infomercials and our crazy friends who say it works...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMZ GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would still like to see someone spend the money and dyno it
Then send the results to the maker ONLY AFTER posting them! lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

with a few posts of interest, i'm down for it, send some PM's my way and i'll go pick it up and dyno it for everyone

 

Trust me, this htinkg does NOT work. Atleast ono sohc motors, me and a friend made one out of a simpe fan and a motor, put it in my intake.......and oh wow. THE **** dont work.
the end
peace

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Family Guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, that's because his car is GM. If you change out the IM for a cereal box, it probably would peform better. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh man i laughed soo hard when i read that LOL

 

yea i am going to have to agree with kablamo.

if this product really does what it says it does.
then every other car companys would be using it, instead of cylinder deactivation.it would simply save them alot of money on production cost.

and you can make almost anything look like it gains 5hp by adding it...they simply take the hi and low test results from the dyno to make it look like you gained power.

 

i would gain more power by just replacing my spark plugs than that POS. and that's dyno proven

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Family Guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, that's because his car is GM. If you change out the IM for a cereal box, it probably would peform better. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Awesome.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Family Guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, that's because his car is GM. If you change out the IM for a cereal box, it probably would peform better. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good ****

 

man, thats pretty stupid i guess.. i mean also if u think of it, just get some tin and mold one.. lol.

but i seriously want to get someone on here that has used the little POS and tell us about it. cuz i really dont get it though.. about the whole spirialing air thing.. cuz theres filters that are ment to spirial the air down the pipe into ur IM... so i dont see how this would "restrict" airflow, and how would cause less throtle responce...

 

first off, you can make the air in your intake spiral all you want but once it hits your throttle plate that spiral is spiral no more. so i can't see why they would put out false information about this thing creating a turbulance all the way to your Intake ports to your combustion chamber!?!

 

You don't want the air swirling in your intake pipe nor manifold. The only swirling you want is in the combustion chamber. Your cams already create this "swirl-filling".

It will help for V8's as mentioned earlier.

:Jay Leno: To this product, we say NO. :Jay Leno:

 

how will it help v8 out when i can't even help a 4 banger?

since this product is always placed before the throttle plate, logically the only turblance/spiral it creates is from where it's placed to the throttle plate. which is pretty much useless and pointless.

i can see how it MIGHT help out a carburated motor...but not on a fuel injected motor.

 

i put 4 spiralmax in the intake pipes coming from my intercooler all the way to my throttle body in my old 98 GST eclipse and I noticed a very noticeable gain. I also took them out and put them in a short ram intake in my moms 98 eclipse non turbo GS and noticed a gain as well.

I didn't dyno either car. The nonturbo car if I had to guess gained about the same amount of power as adding an intake alone. So figure 10 hp for the intake and then another 10 for the spiralmax. That's how it felt anyway. The 140 horsepower car was more torquey with them in there and I could actually get the car moving on the freeway a lot nicer than it would normally do before I put them in there. When I would open the hood, you could actually here the air getting sucked and moving through the 3 inch intake pipe, where without the 4 of them in there, you couldn't here that noise before. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't like a turbo charged vehicle suction sound, but it was definitely there and you could hear it. I was also able to chirp the tires now when punching it in first. It was ever so slight because the car was an auto, but it was there, and you can bet the car couldn't do that before. Also, car with intake and no spiralmax topped out at 98mph. With them it topped out at 110. It took a while to get there, but it got there.

As with the turbo eclipse, I noticed a bit more of a gain. I guess that would have something to do with the already forced air induction. It gave the car a feeling of having bigger lungs you could say. When sitting at a light and getting ready to take off, when you finally did, you could just feel the power. The throttle response was much more in tune, it had more torque for peeling rubber through second, and the pull of the car was better. I think it worked very well with the turbo. Boost would hit sooner and when it did it would spool faster. Car had a govener on it at 138, so I couldn't test top speed on this car as it could already hit that at stock.

I didn't bother to monitor gas milage of either car as I didn't care. It was a few years ago when I was younger.

This was with spiralmax not the tornado. When I talked to the guy on the phone that manufactures these things, he said that putting one your car isn't going to do much, but putting 2 or more would be much more beneficial. (sure he wants to make money and sell more, but he was right). At least one at the top of your intake and one at the bottom. With me I have them there and then two more on the inside split apart in the centers of the pipes. I tried it with 2 and 4 was definitely better. Would I pay 70 a piece for these kinds of gains? Well probably not, unless money wasn't an issue. But I got a deal. I got them buy one get one free. That's why I have 4. Would I buy 4 for 140?? Hell yeah I would. I did it before and if I didn't have them anymore you can bet I would do it again. I have them now and I will be putting them in my new lude when I pick it up and get an intake for it, and honestly, you can bet I will take them out and put them into each and every single new car I get for the rest of my life. 10-15 horsepower is 10-15 horsepower no matter what. I dunno if those would be crank or wheel numbers, but the gains are there, and gains are gains, so it's good enough for me that's for sure.




Modified by rive22 at 9:41 AM 6/25/2004

 

you have to be joking.

Doesn't mean **** without a dyno run.

 

Butt dyno's are for suckers And so are all these "tornado air super megatron powerman 5000 Type R Sport GSR Type X Shiminy himiny HA power adder" gimmicks

 

There's the butt dyno for you. Do you know how the spiralmax works? How did it help you gain power? It "spins" the air, thereby accelerating it or what? I don't think so, especially on a turbo car. The turbo is already pressurizing the air.

Once again, you don't need to spin the air in the intake pipe and IM. You want it to flow smooth and straight.