maybe a parts list of what u think is needed to get a b18b motor to low 14's? not sure what companies are quality proven.

 

depends on what route you want to go. how much money you have to work with etc. but ne turbo kit would get ya there.

 

turbo.

 

Depends....but u could probably do it with I/H/E nice cams and some headwork. Tires and good driving will go a long way too. You could also try to drop some weight from the car and lose ur spare tire/tools, if u have subs those are heavy, anything u dont need take out. If you have big rims get smaller, lighter ones, theres alot you can do.

But a decent turbo kits is the quickest way to get there

 

Turbo definately.

If you want to get there all motor. Expect to go the LS/VTEC route.

Turbo will be a lot cheaper/faster.

 

A friend of mine had Comptech Intake w/ Icebox Skunk2 Intake Manifold Crower 404s with Ported and Polished head, can't remember the header, but followed with test pipe and A'PEXi exhaust was running 13.8s with slicks.

 

the cheapest way to break 14's is just use a 80shot wet nitrous setup, and a little weight reduction with slicks. there ya go.

that or go turbo like most of us have done...easy 14's all day long till ya run out of gas!!

 

B18B is good for turbo..
DOHC NON VTEC

 

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made me laugh

elaborate a little, what are you saying when you want low 14's. you want to be next to a stang at a light and be able to run a low 14? if so, then don't use slicks to help get there for obvous reasons. personally, using slicks to get to a goal of low 14s is stupid as fawk, it's not going to be that hard to get there, so you may as well have that performance on the street, because if you have a low 14sec car on the track w/slicks, your going to have a (mist likely) high 14 sec car on the street with is hardly impressive.

anyways, like stated, any turbo kit will get you, although i'd recommend gathering all the parts you need and doing it that way, because it will be cheaper, and you will see better numbers out of it.

if you want to go all motor, it will be alot harder, but like stated above, converting yout b18b to a ls/vtec motor will make it a hell of alot easier to get there, but either way you'll need good bolt ons, cams/gears, and some headwork.

most of all, good luck

 

all motor.. im willing to spend about 1 grand..maybe 1500 ...but not more.. im sure i can get all stuff for under a grand. i was thinking turbo, but it seems like its much more of a hassle for daily driving, plus i love the all motor roar. i need to know what kind of performance i/h/e cams etc. companies are the best bang for the buck that work well together and can get me down the 1320 in low 14s on street tires. im not sure what companies i should be looking for...

also i gotta quick question....do vtec cams i.e. type r cams gsr cams fit into a b18b? what parts from a type r can fit in the b18b and which cant?

 

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also i gotta quick question....do vtec cams i.e. type r cams gsr cams fit into a b18b? what parts from a type r can fit in the b18b and which cant?</TD></TR></TABLE>

dude, i honestly don't think you can spend only 1grand and make it into the 14 second range with your ls going N/A. your basic H/E/I will almost rack up 1grand! and that's gonna only give you MAYBE 5-15whp. another thing is your long geared tranny which also doesn't help you.

and no, nothing off a VTEC head will work on a non-VTEC head. you can however swap on the vtec oil pump, water pump, and girdle which won't help with power but will help your motor live longer.

 

turbo will get you below 14's with

 

14.5 on the stock 90 Teg LS motor WITH a 48shot of NOS.

Any one else have a 90 Teg with a B16A (JDM) swap?
if so what kind of times do you get in the 1/4 mile?

 

that's nothin a little NAWS and some weight reduction can't achieve

 

i'd boost the **** out of it

 

get a tranny with shorter gears if our going all motor.....gsr tranny is nice for daily driving

 

goddmanit!!!! THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO ANOTHER TURBO VS. ALL-MOTOR THREAD!!!!!

 

i haven't done a lot of research myself, but have a friend who just sold his 97 turbo ls (small turbo, not exactly sure which, and good tuning) that was running a 13.3. turbo sounds like the easiest way, but i'm personally a fan of N/A power

 

you wna to take a 16 second car and make it run low 14's for less than $1000? It's not gonna happen man, you gotta pay to play

Like they said bolt-ons will run you nearly $1000, then there's some 404 cams and valvesprings you're looking at a good $600, also headwork and all new gaskets for your top-end could be well over $800, and you'll need toraise your CR somehow which means either new pistons($$$$) or milling the head. Don't forget cam gears, and a fuel pressure regulator. And would probably need a VTEC tranny as well ($300-400)

Are you doing ALL the labour yourself? Otherwise labour is a big expense that should be taken into consideration.

after ALL that you still need to tune it, so you need a piggyback tuning tool and also time on the dyno, usually at around $150/hour. You can see how quickly the money can add up, and 1500 is not nearly enough.

I would say $2500 to be realistic for low 14's high 13's.

for $1000-1500 you could get bolt-ons, 403's w/ spring and a VAFC, I know a guy with that set-up, running 15flat. you'd still need to dyno tune though which would probably put you over your budget.

 

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go do a cartwheel

 

okay i kinda made a list... of what is the basics that are needed..these are retail prices..not sure how much used ones go for..

generic intake - free
~dc jdm 4-1 headers - 374.85
~comptech axleback muffler - 329.00
crower 403 cams - 401.97
crower 404 cams - 401.97
crower springs & retainers - 339.63
AEM fuel pressure regulator - 163.61
greddy e-manage package: Manage Main Unit, Support Software,
Pressure Sensor, Pressure Sensor Harness,
Injector Harness and Ignition Harness - 615.95

= $2225

i was wondering if anyone can hook me up with a list of parts needed for turbo.. i kinda want to compare pricing between the two.

 

turbo
intercooler
intercooler piping
turbo cams
id recommend valvetrain
if you want to boost some insane numbers youll have to sleeve the block and get new pistons/rods/ rings
wastegate
turbo manifold
fuel injectors
FPR (duh)
engine managament
dyno time
larger exhuast (approx 3inches)


prob some other stuff as well, this is off the top of my head


Modified by 98TypeSH at 1:56 PM 6/17/2004


Modified by 98TypeSH at 1:56 PM 6/17/2004

 

Scooby, I have a B16A in my car, with intake, header, exhaust, clutch, and Flywheel running 14.70's, but thats when i take out a bunch of ****

 

Cool thx for letting me know, after I get a front end put on it then Im going to do a Dyno on it and a few track runs then Ill install a turbo on it

 

I have a 97 4dr gsr with....intake, header, exhaust, skunk2 intake manifold, Spoon Balanced JDM ITR pistons, high compression head gasket, stage 3 pnp, valve job, USDM ITR Valvetrain, CTR cams, USDM Type R Tranny..i just got it built so i haven't tried to start it yet. but i was wandering what my compression should be and if i will get decent hp numbers...oh and also what would be some good parts for tuning, like bigger injectors, FPR, fuel rail and the such...thanks