Ok I have decided to get a camber kit. Car runs on GC Coilovers with Koni Yellow shocks. Here's the questions I have:

1) I don't know the exact amount I am dropped, but my front has a 1 finger gap in the front... how much is that approximately from stock? Is that too much for what I am using? Will I be slamming into my bump stops? (They are cut).

2) I am probably going to get the SBC front kit at least, I guess I have to choose between the 0 - 1.5" kit or the 1.5 to 3" kit... is the 3" kit necessary for the drop I may have (2" or so I imagine) or can I get away with the 0 - 1.5? I don't mind a little camber, in fact it will probably keep my wheels from rubbing.

Thanks

-D

 

if you get the 0-1.5 kit, you will never be able to correct all of your camber w/a 2" drop

w/ the 3 kit, you could correct all your camber, or tell the alignment shop to leave you some neg camber

id get the 3 degree kit. i got the 1.5-3 deg ingalls kit and im at 0 camber w/ virtually no gap on my 91.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nickgmiller04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you get the 0-1.5 kit, you will never be able to correct all of your camber w/a 2" drop

w/ the 3 kit, you could correct all your camber, or tell the alignment shop to leave you some neg camber

id get the 3 degree kit. i got the 1.5-3 deg ingalls kit and im at 0 camber w/ virtually no gap on my 91.</TD></TR></TABLE>


for the first bold set of words:

yeah, i found that out the hard way. but see, i got everything installed last tuesday, and i didnt have a camber kit. so i thought to myself, i can not get one, risk shreading up these tires in a matter of months... and then pay for a kit later, then install it, and get another allignment
*OR*
can just go to a local performance shop, buy a camber kit for my car ($180 ouch) and it was by progress auto and it didnt offer me the right camber correction, but with a 2 inch drop, which is now like 2.2 because of the weight of the car, and the 50lb speaker box in the back, and not risk eating my tires up all kind's, and not make it look like a hack job..

second set of bold words:

you bastard!!! i wanted to do that.. lol.. but how much was ur kit?

so what im going to end up doing is.. my car, on 3 corners is maxed out by an .8 degree/notch or whatever they use on the camber machine.. and on one side, its half a degree off/notch off on whatever they use on the camber machine.. so my kit didnt work for me, but im just going to buy me an ingall's or spc kit with the adjustable arm's in the rear, and the front's.. and true up my tires once and for all. and the good part is, my uncle is a mechanic, so i get alot of stuff for cheap or free such as allignments.

but if u have a 1 finger gap.. or close to it, its about a 2 inch drop, cuz i got that all the way around my car, and you.ll need the 1.5-3degree kit.. trust me, dont make the same mistake as me, and dont go w/o a camber on that kind of drop for a long time.. it'll kill youro tires

 

couldn't agree more

get the 3 degree kit

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nickgmiller04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you get the 0-1.5 kit, you will never be able to correct all of your camber w/a 2" drop

w/ the 3 kit, you could correct all your camber, or tell the alignment shop to leave you some neg camber

id get the 3 degree kit. i got the 1.5-3 deg ingalls kit and im at 0 camber w/ virtually no gap on my 91.</TD></TR></TABLE>

0 camber

3 degree kit making control arms hit fenderwells unless you hammer that seam

I doubt you have much more than -2 camber if you have a 1-finger gap in front. I would get the 0-1.5 kit to minimize chances of the control arm hitting the seam in the fenderwell, and adjust it so you have about -1.75 camber or so. You will not have any tire wear problems if the toe is adjusted to exactly 0.

Or just get the Skunk2 or OmniPower front upper control arms.

Or just don't even bother w/ a camber kit. I'm lowered 3" w/ over -2.5 camber in front, and I got over 35K miles on my last set of ES100 tires.

 

Ok, I guess the real issue is that I raise and lower my car seasonally. So in the winter time, I would raise it back up so I am not acting as another snowplow. With the 1.5 - 3 degree kit, I am taking it that I would need to pull it out completely in order to have a proper camber at stock height? It's not a HUGE deal I suppose, but it's still something I want to know for sure.

Thanks

-D

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

0 camber

3 degree kit making control arms hit fenderwells unless you hammer that seam

I doubt you have much more than -2 camber if you have a 1-finger gap in front. I would get the 0-1.5 kit to minimize chances of the control arm hitting the seam in the fenderwell, and adjust it so you have about -1.75 camber or so. You will not have any tire wear problems if the toe is adjusted to exactly 0.

Or just get the Skunk2 or OmniPower front upper control arms.

Or just don't even bother w/ a camber kit. I'm lowered 3" w/ over -2.5 camber in front, and I got over 35K miles on my last set of ES100 tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess thats another thing, I am not real big on my control arms smashing in my fenderwell . I have never had a correction kit before, and never had serious wear issues. I only run 16's so I have some rubber there.

I guess I have some thinking to do... too bad I can't see what a 1.5 kit would get me. If I am just off a tad with a 1.5, I really dont mind.

-J

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Diabolik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, I guess the real issue is that I raise and lower my car seasonally. So in the winter time, I would raise it back up so I am not acting as another snowplow. With the 1.5 - 3 degree kit, I am taking it that I would need to pull it out completely in order to have a proper camber at stock height? It's not a HUGE deal I suppose, but it's still something I want to know for sure.

Thanks

-D</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you pull it out completely (+3 correction) you would be sitting with positive camber which is probably downright dangerous.

You do know that toe changes every time you change ride height, and thus an alignment is needed whenever you change the height, right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you pull it out completely (+3 correction) you would be sitting with positive camber which is probably downright dangerous.

You do know that toe changes every time you change ride height, and thus an alignment is needed whenever you change the height, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

OH yes... Not an issue, I would get an alignment every time.

-D

 

you should just get the 0-1.5 kit... with your drop you probably dont have that much camber to begin with... also when you get an alignment done, dont have them set it to 0... a little camber is good for the car and handling... also its not the camber that eats away at the tires, its the toe... too many people are misinformed about that... also i have air ride in one of my tegs and dont have any tire wear problems at all... after i put the suspension in and had an alignment done... as long as i drive at or near the same height as when i had the alignment done, the camber/toe should be the same