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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Ok.......The time has come to drop my 99 Teg GSR.
I want something that will allow me to lower the car, and have the added performance, but i DO NOT want to sacrifice alot of my ride quality, since this is still going to be a daily driver. I realize I will probably lose SOME quality, but I dont want something that will ride like a full race setup.

What do you guys recommend?

Please include links to a site where I can see prices and information on the product.

Any help is appreciated and I thank you in advance.

Basically I want to know if I should go for springs.......or get coilovers with some shocks later on......or get full coilovers...........my dad saw something where i might be able to get new shocks and lower it that way with stock springs and such, anyone know something about that?

Ive heard alot of people say GC Coils w/ Koni Yellows.......anyone heard about this set up?

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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if budget is not an issue, go w/ tein flex since you dont want something too stiff and you can lower/raise your car anytime you want.

im personally using GC coilovers w/ kyb agx shocks and i love it!
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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gc and koni yellows is a really good set up. but if you dont wanna sacrifice ride quality depends on how much you want to lower but eibach prokit or sportslines with kyb agx rides pretty much like stock
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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tein flex with edfc y0!
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Well, Money is and isnt an issue. I dont wanna go cheap and get so so parts, but then again, i dont have alot to spend. I kind of want to get the coilovers with stock shocks until i can get the money for the shocks. Will I be able to do this with the GC coils?

I probably wont adjust the height much, just when i first install and get it where i want it, then i will probably leave it alone. This being the case, should I go with Springs for now and then add shocks when I can afford it? Or just dont do anything till I can afford the whole deal?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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high-end tuned coilover suspension offers a better ride than any shock/spring combo, so definately get coilovers if you're serious. if money isnt an option, get some high-end Zeals or Ohlins
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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if that is how you feel, i suggest waiting a little bit longer to get them both done at the same time; as many has recommended me and many others...
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Just wait to get everything all at once. You CAN use the GC's with stock shocks but not for very long as they will blow quite fast.

The GC/Yellows set up is good because you can adjust the height AND the stiffness.

Another popular set up is H&R Sports/KYB AGX. This set up will give you a 1.5"F/1.25"R drop and stiffness can also be adjusted(?)

Do some research and find which set up is best for YOU. How much of a harsh ride can YOU handle? It's all about what YOU want. Remember, lower spring rate=smoother ride; higher spring rate=harsher ride.

BTW, as for the shocks, don't overlook the Koni Reds. They are great shocks for the price and I have heard nothing but good things about them. Just like the Yellows, they will be able to handle the high spring rate of the GC's. But, on the other hands, they will need to be removed from the car to adjust the stiffness.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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I probably dont want something that i will have to take off of the car to adjust, so maybe the reds arent going to be a great choice.

I want something that will lower the car but still give me decent performance and not sacrifice the ride quality. Im not going to be tracking the car so I dont really need something heavy duty. This will be an everyday driver, so I just want something that will give me a good ride for an everyday car, while not losing any performance. Basically, I just want to lower my car.

That being said, maybe what I want is alittle more clear now. I should have mentioned that earlier. I wont be tracking this car. This car has my stereo in it and is going to be the car i use to get around in. So I dont really need to have the top of the line racing equipment. Mainly its just for cosmetic reasons but I still want to have some fun with it in the corners. You guys get the idea.

Based on this, is there something that would be best for this type of setup? I really just want my car lowered. It looks like a truck as is so i really wanna get this thing down lol

See what you guys can come up with. I really appreciate everyones input. This is very helpful to me Thanks VEEERRRYYYY much!!!
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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Eibach Pro-Kit
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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If I got the Prokit, would that be all I would need? I assume its just the springs? Also, there are 2 choices that I see on one of the sites I looked at that have them, a set that lowers 1.3 inches and one that lowers 1.7 inches. I will get a picture of the height for you guys so you can see about how much i would need to lower it. I dont really want it SLAMMED but I want it near tucked.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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if you know the wheel and tire size you want then i would suggest a lowered spring/gas shock combo. since i dont race that much i went with tein dress up master spring and tockico hp shocks. save money and do things all at the same time for complete satisfaction. you should never stay with stock shocks when lowering a vehicle. i dont like coilovers unless you are going with a full coilover setup like eibach's or tein's.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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heres the car right now......









As you can see, i really need a drop. Will it be safe to just get some springs and ride on the stock shocks until i can get some money to get new shocks?
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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then go eibach pro kit and w/ some kyb agx's... you'll be happy w/ this setup and you still have option to adjust damping.. i wouldnt reuse stock shocks.

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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I wouldn't ride on stock shocks if I were you. Some people do it, and have no problems. But some people's blow almost right away. Mine blew within a week, and after that my car got torn up. It ripped most of my fender liners out. It also rubbed on every little turn. I would recommend just saving and doing it the right way the first time.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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If you care about ride quality and it's a daily driver, wait until you can get springs and shocks all at once. Trust me when I say that when the shocks go out, the ride is very very bad.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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And whatever you do, DON'T get H&R sports. They are really shitty. They dropped my car well over 2 inches all the way around. And the rates are way too soft.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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I have the h&r sports, I'm glad they are closer to 2" rather than the rated 1.8" drop. I think a lot of springs are like that. Also, I find the h&r sports better then the neuspeed sports, the h&r's have a higher spring rate.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Puntr69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As you can see, i really need a drop. Will it be safe to just get some springs and ride on the stock shocks until i can get some money to get new shocks?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no...it's better to do it all in one shot if you can.
few reasons.
1. install sometimes will take awhile. bolts break...stuff goes wrong...it sucks to deal with it twice.

2. after each install you'll /need/ to get an alignment done. and that'll run between $60 and $100

3. you also need to consider a camber kit. with a shallow drop (1.5"), you may be able to get away without one...but it's best you do have one. you'll need an alignment either way though.

4. your shocks are going to go bad...and there's no telling when it'll happen. you don't want to be driving around on blown shocks for a few months because you can't afford to get new ones.


what's your price range right now???
for a full setup (shocks, springs, camber kit), you're probably looking at somewhere between $500 and $800--depending on the quality that you get. (you can spend well upwards of a few grand if you want to....but obviously that's not something you're looking to do)

for shocks....
most people here (including me) love koni yellows. height adjustable and stiffness adjustable. --but they'll run $500 for a set, new.
kyb agx is another name to look at...they're stiffness is adjustable, people tend to like them....a good price too.
and tokico illuminas. again, a good shock for a reasonable price.
but typically how it goes with all car stuff is <u>you get what you pay for</u>.

for springs...
depends on what kind of drop you want. typically the lower you go, the more ride quality you're going to sacrifice. (it's gonna be more bumpy)
coilovers tend to give you a really stiff ride (because they're made to go so low), springs will give a softer ride, but you won't be able to adjust them.
GC's and Koni's are a popular (but pretty expensive) combo
maybe go with something like a Neuspeed Sport or H&R Sport with a KYB AGX or an Illumina. (that'll run about $500)

for a camber kit look at ingalls and skunk2 - ingalls being cheaper (but it works well), and skunk2 being overpriced.

for this stuff don't skimp. it's better to pay too much then to be bouncing down the road wearing on your tires on a set of dropzone coilovers and your stock struts.

might be able to find good used stuff too.
i spent about $550 on my setup. Neuspeed Race, Koni yellows and an Ingalls kit. the ingalls & the konis were slightly used...but have worked perfectly so far.

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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if i were you i would buy a itr shock/spring combo used. It will fit the gsrs. I think the suspension lowers the car 1 in. all around. The itr suspension is really good for being a stock OEM package. Try passordjdm.com or inlinefour.com. I have read elsewhere that many itr owner don't even mess with their suspension.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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im impressed with my friends h&r sport/type R strut combo. And it is still a very nice ride and close to stock feel. Im going with my h&r sports and illuminas or koni yellows, just cant decide which ones. Illuminas would be $350 vs Yellows $485.

I thought about coilovers, but then again, ill probably never adjust em, my friend adjusted his twice, and then you also have to make sure your even after adjusting them.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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i like my koni yellow and gc coilover set up, it feels and performs very nicely. before i had the gcs, i had nuespeed sport springs which collapsed and ended up eating up my tires. i had wanted gc in the first place, but didnt want to spend the $ on them, and got the nuespeeds, which of course i regretted since they collapsed. no problems w/my gcs or konis so far! so i should have just saved up and got gc in the first place! also, what corona said was very true, might as well do it all at one time! good luck!
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rega322 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i were you i would buy a itr shock/spring combo used. It will fit the gsrs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget if you go this route, you'll need the ITR LCAs.

[i]SIDEBAR QUESTION: If i go with this setup (including LCA), wouldn't the ITR rear sway bar bit a direct fit? Or would I need the popular ITR rear sway bar kit?
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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Hmmmm.......

Well, I think the Koni Yellows might be my choice. I hear so many good things about them, and they sound like that Im looking for.

Springs though, I have not decided on. If you guys could, tell me about how which springs you guys have or recommend for springs. I hear alot of diff opinions about the H&R sports. I hear good about Eibach Pro-kit. Not really sure about anything else.

Lets hear what yall think will go well with the Koni Yellows.

Also, do you guys think used parts are ok to use? Or dont even think about used and buy new?
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