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EK/EJ-B18C5 Timeslip...Let's compare

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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Default EK/EJ-B18C5 Timeslip...Let's compare

Here's mine, I want to compare with someone that has the same setup.

R/T..............1.149
60 Ft............2.142
594' ET..........8.867
1/8 ET...........9.484
1/8 Mph..........72.93
1000' ET.........12.400
1254 ET..........14.364
1/4 ET...........14.867
1/4 MPH..........89.46

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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Is this car and swap completly stock?

Your times sound kinda high...?
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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maybe its the r/t
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 11:37 PM
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MPH is too slow. a stock motor would trapp above 98+mph
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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1/8th mile was good, but it looks like u assed out on the top end...with that 1/8ht mile you shouldv'e had at least a low 14,.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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Yep, it's completely stock. What do you guys think about the 60 ft time?

Would a new flywheel mess up my top end power? I thought it was supposed to help throughout the power band. I was reading on http://www.theoldone.com that his motor was doing really well on the takeoff but it assed out on the top end. I currently have the cx fuel pump. I plan on changing:

The way I launch (leave on the last yellow is what someone told me)
Fuel pump to ITR (free)
New NGK Iridum plugs (25 bucks or so??)
New Plug wires
Ditch all unneeded interior pieces

Help me out... What else shoud I change that'll help me get the most out of this motor without spending my rent money? Should I try it out with the stock flywheel?

I have no A/C or P/S
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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flywheel should help you all throughout the power band. what are you plans...obviously drag racing, now all motor or turbo?..if turbo then stay stock with the head, and get sum pistons/rods. lower the compression a bit. allmotor then go with some agressive cams, and make sure you get the corrisponding valvetrain. ctr pistons, and yer pretty much set after tuning and proper fuel management. hope this helps.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 01:31 AM
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Actually the ultimate goal is to go road racing. The Nurburg ring and Hochenheim ring are the spots I'll be at. All motor is what I'm going for. I wanted to go with some toda B cams, toda valvetrain, custom (4-1) header, ported skunk2 intake mani, chipped ecu (maybe soppn?), aem intake, clutchmasters clutch, aem fuel rail, some RC injectors (clueless on what size, maybe 310?) and a few more things that i can't think of right now. I'm going to have to see wassup with those ctr pistons though...
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeeBo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually the ultimate goal is to go road racing. The Nurburg ring and Hochenheim ring are the spots I'll be at. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Jealous...
'Ring &gt; All others
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 07:32 AM
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This is my '96 Civic EX coupe(pretty hefty), with a stock B18C-R(JDM).
Bowling Green, KY----545 ft. elevation

R/T---.641
60ft.--2.301
330---6.142
1/8---9.358
MPH--72.54
1000--12.159
1/4---14.543
MPH--94.30

I'm pretty happy seeing as the motor is stock and I have a full interior...but I really need to get some better motor mounts and some drag radials...(I was running on the shitty stock mounts and on brand new Yokohama AVS ES 100's.)

--Not to mention it was 91F degrees outside
and the relative humidity was 100%
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Your 60 ft. could be a little bit better.
Keep in mind, what tires are you running and what are you launching at? There's a good drag topic by activeaero (sp?) over in the ITR forums. Do a search over there as he's been able to run a 14.2 in a stock ITR .

As crappy as it sounds, the hardest part to getting a good time is getting a decent launch and hooking up(which is fairly challenging in a fwd.) Suspension plays a part in this of course.

When I had an ITR, I couldn't break 15.1. Perfectly stock, tires were Yokohama AVS-ES100's, could have been better. However my trap speed was about 95 mph. Your trap speed looks a little low to me, should be going a little quicker then that I'd think.

I'm dying to get my hatch on the road with this swap, By the end of the summer I should have some sort of times if I ever finish it.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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compare your slip to people in this thread...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=858510
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe its the r/t</TD></TR></TABLE>



Where are people gonna learn that your RT has NOTHING to do with your 1/4 time. You can sit there for 30 seconds if you want and you're still gonna run a 14.8. The time doesnt start until you trip the beam in front of the staging lanes.

And you're times are SLOW. I have a 93 cx hatch with a somewhat high mileage B18c1 in it and I'm cutting 15.1's but with 2.47 60's(yeah, i know horrible. Kinda didnt realize my azenis were bald). By cutting that 60' down to a 2.1 it should drop ~.6 seconds off my 1/4 putting me at a 14.5. Does your car feel like it's losing power up top? Oh yeah, and in contrast there is a guy around here with a type R swapped EK and he ran a 14.48 with a 2.4 60'. So he's in the 13's easily.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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It is all about your launch. That first 60 feet is crucial. My personal best is a 2.21 that put me in the trap in 9.5 sec at 77 mph. in the 1/8. That was in a 99 Si (2700lbs baby) with minor bolt ons.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Where are people gonna learn that your RT has NOTHING to do with your 1/4 time. .</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Default Re: EK/EJ-B18C5 Timeslip...Let's compare (DeeBo)

with that trap, you wont be too much quicker.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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here is what my track times were i was running skunk2 obd2-1 ju8mper harness with 95gs-r computer a 2\1\4 apexi exhaust, 255walboro fuel pump, stock ls header and a 97 jdm itr motor swap the car was untuned running rich as hell and also a vafc with vtec engaging at 5300rpm the motor is a 96 dx hatchback full interior also had a aem cold air intake
these are my times before i had it tuned and before my new header i installed
i ran 2 passes first pass
2.1 60 ft
8.90 1/8
79.16mph
13.880 1/4
98.74 mph

2nd pass
1.9 60ft
8.7 1/8
79.35mph
13.6 1/4
99 mph

the car put 186@wheels and 130ftlb of torque tuned with a 2\1\2 exhaust, aem cai, and jdm itr4-1 header vafc annd a fuel pump
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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Replaced the spark plugs. Gas mileage is much better. Had quite a bit of carbon buildup on them as well. Do the platinum or iridum plugs make any difference in power or reliability? I don't think so but I figured I'd ask.

I tried to put it on the dyno yesterday, my car was too low. I got some H&R Race springs on some 15's. They told me to come back on the snow/winter tires. Hopefully I'll get the info I'm looking for soon. Thanks for the 1/4 mile post.

Did my car really run a 14.3 in the 1/4 but my reaction time was so shitty that the 1/4E.T. was 14.8?
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 01:18 AM
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time seems pretty high. my friend is hitting constant 14.1 with his itr swap in his eg hatch. he has a 4-1 header,2.5" piping, and a magnaflow muffler. also a cai.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 05:44 AM
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I've been reading a little bit and I've found that the b18c6 has 190 hp compared to the 197 hp of the b18c5. It's due to the header and the exhaust I think that if you factor in that the motor stock motor as well... Or maybe my motor just sucks... The better gas mileage that I'm getting may indicate an increase in HP as well. (I hope)

edit* does your boy run slicks?

do you guys shift right before the redline, or right before the fuel cut?
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 06:20 AM
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In my brothers '94 coupe w/ jdm itr motor, intake, exhaust, and flywheel, I ran an:
8.8 at 80mph in the 1/8.
with a 2.0 60ft.
At 3500 feet of elevation.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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I have a 99 si and here are some numbers on me..
I usually run about a
RT: .800
60 Ft- 2.400 ( track sucks-alabama for ya-an bald kuhmo supras )
but I pull ATLEAST a 80 mph 1/8th all the way to 85 mph 1/8th
and thats in a heavy *** em1
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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ET dictates traction
MPH dictates power/speed
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