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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Im tryinbg to decide weather or not to put my zc or b20 in my 91 dx crx, i went for a ride in my firends zc,diferentf cams,high flow cat,2.5 exhaust, hes got big system and 17'S, And it wasnt very fast, i beat it in my accord, 91 lx intake and exhaust, beat him 4 times by more than 3 car lenghts,

so im thinking about putting a b20, but what mounts,tranny ect would i need, and is there i web site with info on the swap

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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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The sohc zc or dohc? I dont know much about the B20 other than it comes out of a crv and it has more torque than a DOHC ZC, but I wouldnt buy that one. Go dohc zc. You can get one on hmotors for 525..... Or you could just spend a couple hundred extra and get the B18B.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Go b20. Screw a DOHC ZC not as much aftermarket as b-series. B20 with a decent transmission would be fun. Just as some people aren't a fan of b16a's I'm not a fan of ZC's.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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do you have an Si. if you do id just turbo your motor and be done. a B20 swap done right is gonna be over 2500$.
you can buy a cheap turbo kit for 1100$. spend a bit more and build you motor. Then you can crank the boost and be fast for real.

i wouldnt bother with a b20 unless you have a bunch of money and are going to turbo that as well. So many guys spend over 2k for a swap and barely get out of the 14s. An A6 running 7psi on a stock block will do better and lots cheaper.

just saw you have a DX. ok do a MPFI and put in a A6, 100$ motor.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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I would deff go with a B20. Having owned 2 cars with a ZC and a B20B/VTEC, the B20 is well worth the cost. There is no replacement for displacement and in this case it truly applies. The cost of a ZC is nothing when you consider the things that go into a B series swap. Go check out HASport.com for swap info...
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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i thought he said b20 not b20 vtec. If you go with a bseries you will have to buy mounts and figure how your going to wire it. If you go with a zc it will bolt right in and be cheaper and sorta quick. I say go with simplicity unless your trying to make this thing hella fast.

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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wagon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im tryinbg to decide weather or not to put my zc or b20 in my 91 dx crx, i went for a ride in my firends zc,diferentf cams,high flow cat,2.5 exhaust, hes got big system and 17'S, And it wasnt very fast, i beat it in my accord, 91 lx intake and exhaust, beat him 4 times by more than 3 car lenghts,

so im thinking about putting a b20, but what mounts,tranny ect would i need, and is there i web site with info on the swap

thanks,</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depending on what ZC your friend has and how he treats it..it doesn't sound to me like it's right good. I have my zc dohc on it's way and 1400 dollars worth of aftermarket parts i'm about to buy...I'm looking at 200 some hp out of the motor before it even goes in the car.

It all depends on how much you want to spend and what your own opinions are.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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I have always wanted a b20 with y1 tranny. With a set of cams that would make a awesome daily driver with great midrange power.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Whats your budget? A ZC swap is way cheaper than any B series swap can hope to be.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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seconds to that.........ask yourself how far u are willing to go with this project.....do u want your car now or later.....also do u want to go a little faster now or a lot faster later......factor in cost, down time, labor, and anything else u can think of that i cant right now and you'll have your answer about what u want to do......bottom line its your car do the research and decide what u want not what everyone else thinks you should do
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90SICRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Depending on what ZC your friend has and how he treats it..it doesn't sound to me like it's right good. I have my zc dohc on it's way and 1400 dollars worth of aftermarket parts i'm about to buy...I'm looking at 200 some hp out of the motor before it even goes in the car.

It all depends on how much you want to spend and what your own opinions are. </TD></TR></TABLE>

unless your going turbo..no way in hell you ll get 200HP out of that ZC.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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no turbo here, I'm picking up the parts list from the local performance shop today I'll list them in a thread later
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsbad454 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">unless your going turbo..no way in hell you ll get 200HP out of that ZC.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I would have to agree but I'll wait for the parts list. If you could have 200HP for $1400 on a ZC then why would people do B swaps?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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most people say the dohc is the d series anwser to b series...but anyway i don't want to argue about it I can't wait to get the numbers
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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b20 nuff said!

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contact hasport!
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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DEFINITELY B20!

Even a simple, basic, relatively inexpensive non-VTEC B20 is a GREAT setup. Way better than EITHER the ZC OR the LS. Think about it. You will basically get B16A power with more torque than an LS could ever dream of. The ZC? It will NEVER, NEVER, EVER make the kind of torque the B20 makes. Now alot of people call the ZC a 'bang for the buck' swap. But the truth is that the B20 will give you WAY more bang for the buck than the ZC. Yes, it costs more. But you also get ALOT more for the money.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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you will need a new intake with a B20, you need custom mounts , you need a lot of little things. It has torque but makes lousy HP numbers with out a B16 Vtec head put on it, and then you are talking well over $2,000 before you are done.

Hell I have WAY more into my B16 swap than I am happy about.

I do have M20 Rocket motorsport cams, and springs, and Cam gears, Skunk 2 intake, 65mm TB, 4-1 JDM header, CAI . Pretty fast.... but cost way too much.

You can do a lot with a ZC, have a motor and tranny that weighs way less than a B swap and with some warming up have a quite respectible car. My last motor was a warmed over DOHC ZC.

With a ZC do a Si-ZC hybrid tranny............
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