Alright, now I've heard numerous people saying it both ways, so I wanna get the right answer here...

Do you need different struts if you are going to lower your ride 2" all the way around? Ive heard some people saying you'll ruin your struts within a year and ive also been told not to worry about the struts.

I was planning on getting some custom GC coilovers cuz i got a H22, but am unsure if i should be buying some new struts. Also, the car only has 60k on it, so the suspension couldnt be too badly worn.

 

It is recommended to get new struts cause of the different loads from the new springs or coils....The stock ones cant handle it...Just save up and get some Koni yellows..

 

thanks for the quick reply... but

if i were to just toss some GCs on the stock suspension dropped 2", do you think i could roll around like that for 3 months before i buy the konis, then throw the konis on?

 

IMO.....probably not...

 

I say even more than 3 mths

 

I just got some skunk1/2's and i want to know how much i can lower my EG without needing a camber kit?

This is on stock shocks by the way.

 

I've had this drop for over 18 months, on stock shocks and arospeed coilovers. Still rides perfectly fine.

 

Are you still riding on that setup now? How did the arospeeds feel?

 

I was driving for over a year on GCs with stock struts. Only problem I had was bad camber but that was due to being dropped almost 3 inches.

 

From what I understand stock shocks (prior to the 2001 line-up) are actually pretty tough. Personally, though, I would save up the extra cash for a good set of shocks before adding the springs - especially if you're dropping in an H22. "Do it once, do it right," right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97civicracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the quick reply... but

if i were to just toss some GCs on the stock suspension dropped 2", do you think i could roll around like that for 3 months before i buy the konis, then throw the konis on?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know what kind of spring rates you'll be using with your Ground Controls, but I think you'll be fine for three months on stock shocks. I ran for over a year on stock shocks with a 2.5" drop. Granted, the spring rates were pretty soft but still stiffer than stock, of course. When I installed Koni Yellows, the stock shocks were perfectly fine. So if they're good now, you shouldn't worry too much about running them for only three months.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99FBPSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you still riding on that setup now? How did the arospeeds feel?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, they are fine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thrty8street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just got some skunk1/2's and i want to know how much i can lower my EG without needing a camber kit?

This is on stock shocks by the way. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

The rule of thumb is about 1.5" before needing a kit. I'm lowered 2.5" on my EJ8 and still don't have a kit. My front camber is only -1.1 on each side, but the rear is about -2.8 and -2.6 on the driver and passenger side.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rule of thumb is about 1.5" before needing a kit. I'm lowered 2.5" on my EJ8 and still don't have a kit. My front camber is only -1.1 on each side, but the rear is about -2.8 and -2.6 on the driver and passenger side.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how do you measure the camber?

 

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how do you measure the camber?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Alignment shop.

 

i'd get shocks too if i were you just to avoid the hassle of taking out your suspension twice. why not save a little more money and do it in one shot

 

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thats what i would recommend... unless you like taking your springs/coilovers out all the time... if you lower your car 2" you may or may not blow your shocks... if you were to go any lower i would definately say get some aftermarket shocks but its your choice....id go with koni yellows or tokico illuminas

also if you have a h22 you are definatley going to want shocks... it will make the ride that much smoother... id actually go with a full coilover system like tein because the parts are made to work together... not saying a combination wont work as good but i have had better experiences with a full coilover system

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've had this drop for over 18 months, on stock shocks and arospeed coilovers. Still rides perfectly fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, I have had mine for almost a year and nothing wrong. Its a 11 year old car too!!

Not sure where you get your sources, but personal experience is best! Yes it is better to get new struts, but I have not had any problem with mine and dont intend on getting new struts/shocks for a long time

 

im on neuspeed race springs 2 inch drop or more and im on stock shocks, i have been for about over 1 year, i will be replacing my shocks with some KYB agx's allready ordered! the ride wasnt to bad at first but it just started to get more bouncy as time went on, but still have not blown them, u could ride on them for a while, and save up for some new shocks so u can dig the new shocks even more!

 

btw heres a pic of my teal coupe on neuspeed race and stock shocks

 

^^^ Were those the springs known to drop the car more in the back than the front? Cant tell from the pic. Doesnt look too low though, almost stock if you ask me

 

if u see it in person it doesnt look stock

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97civicracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the quick reply... but

if i were to just toss some GCs on the stock suspension dropped 2", do you think i could roll around like that for 3 months before i buy the konis, then throw the konis on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should be alright. Im dropped around 2 inches and have been on stock struts for about half a year now. And the roads around these parts are ****.

At the same time, i've heard of people blowing their stockers in a matter or weeks.

 

i also have GroundControl on my civic with factory shock, dropped 2.5" all around..and i've had this about 2years now. only problems i have is camber is off...
other than that..