turbo or N/a....yet again
i know i searched and i found many things on turbos and all-motor, but i would like to ask peoples opinions on weather a car that is goin to be driven for mostly autoX, road racing, and the occational drag shgould be N/A of turbo. would the car perform and better or any worse with the turbo than a all-motor car would in the turns...vice versa.
thx for the help im trying to figure out which way i want to go
Modified by projectTeG at 7:12 PM 6/4/2004
thx for the help im trying to figure out which way i want to go
Modified by projectTeG at 7:12 PM 6/4/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95integraLS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">judging by your sig, it looks like you've already decided.
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agreed! hehe Go turbo. Nos is for v8s
jk!
</TD></TR></TABLE>agreed! hehe Go turbo. Nos is for v8s
jk!
why not supercharge it that way your boost is on always? and have an auto tranny worked for racing so you get consistant times and your throttle body is open all the time so your boost is constant. also be careful on the size wheels you put on cause the bigger the wheel the more power it takes to turn them so inturn you loose hp and tq if you don't believe me run a dyno with stock wheels then do it with 18's then you'll see what i mean
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2wickedtoyz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not supercharge it that way your boost is on always? and have an auto tranny worked for racing so you get consistant times and your throttle body is open all the time so your boost is constant. also be careful on the size wheels you put on cause the bigger the wheel the more power it takes to turn them so inturn you loose hp and tq if you don't believe me run a dyno with stock wheels then do it with 18's then you'll see what i mean</TD></TR></TABLE>
can you supercharge the motor in a da i thought the fire-wall was too close, and as for the auto ...hehehe....i swaped that out a couple months ago for a 5-speed
can you supercharge the motor in a da i thought the fire-wall was too close, and as for the auto ...hehehe....i swaped that out a couple months ago for a 5-speed
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vtec+turbo=FASTER!
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vtec+turbo=FASTER!
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I have read on here somewhere that eventhough a sc has instant spool, that given a 3000rpm launch and the proper sized turbo, you will not have any parasitic loss and the turbo will be spooling up giving you more boost quicker than the sc. Also, with more power potential down the road.
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BOOST + I DONT NEED VTEC > VTEC + HIGH COMPRESSION
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BOOST + I DONT NEED VTEC > VTEC + HIGH COMPRESSION
CAPS LOCK + SEARCH BUTTON > TURBO + VTECH.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostinb20vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have read on here somewhere that eventhough a sc has instant spool, that given a 3000rpm launch and the proper sized turbo, you will not have any parasitic loss and the turbo will be spooling up giving you more boost quicker than the sc. Also, with more power potential down the road.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have also heard that sc's have less lag and more usable power in the entire powerband, but i dont know how true that statement is...
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i have also heard that sc's have less lag and more usable power in the entire powerband, but i dont know how true that statement is...
there are two clutch activated sc out there that i know of the one from a 4agze motor from an mr2(but those can only be on for a short time) and the one from a Mercedes kompressor those two can be mounted else where or you can do a procharger which is baisically a turbo that is belt driven. and if yur worried about parasitic loss than think about the fact that you use the ac compressor, ps pump, alternator, and water pump. those all make the motor loose hp and tq also what i said about you losing with your big wheels is true it goes the same for brakes
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I wanna join the >< band wagon
Boost iVTEC 20:1 CR > Supercharger Twinturbo 100:1 CR on a d16 NONVTEC
EDIT: That was pointless to say....something OnTopic
Turbo might be troublesome but if you spend your money wisely, buy the right parts, be somewhat know knowledgable; then I think it can work out right. Dont rush yourself; thats the key. I could go on and on but I think you get the point. PLAN IT OUT!
EDIT AGAIN...: And make sure you have the right management and a awesome tuner as well. Thast very important
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I wanna join the >< band wagon
Boost iVTEC 20:1 CR > Supercharger Twinturbo 100:1 CR on a d16 NONVTEC
EDIT: That was pointless to say....something OnTopic
Turbo might be troublesome but if you spend your money wisely, buy the right parts, be somewhat know knowledgable; then I think it can work out right. Dont rush yourself; thats the key. I could go on and on but I think you get the point. PLAN IT OUT!
EDIT AGAIN...: And make sure you have the right management and a awesome tuner as well. Thast very important
Where you put racing racing, I'm wondering you mean road racing. If so, you're talking about 3 different things. A setup that works well for drag racing, may not be very suitable for autocrossing or road racing. Anything that you do for road racing or auto-xing will probably bump you up into a different class, and from what i've seen people are usually running against stuff that is out of their league. One suggestion that I have is research the events or series that you're wanting to compete in. Check out what the classes allow as far as modifications, then think about what other cars you'll be racing against. It may bump you up to the point that even with a turbo or whatever you decide to go with, that you'll still be racing with cars that are much faster. Atleast by doing this, you'll have that knowledge on your side to help with your decision. Good luck to you with whatever you decide to do.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stonebub »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where you put racing racing, I'm wondering you mean road racing. If so, you're talking about 3 different things. A setup that works well for drag racing, may not be very suitable for autocrossing or road racing. Anything that you do for road racing or auto-xing will probably bump you up into a different class, and from what i've seen people are usually running against stuff that is out of their league. One suggestion that I have is research the events or series that you're wanting to compete in. Check out what the classes allow as far as modifications, then think about what other cars you'll be racing against. It may bump you up to the point that even with a turbo or whatever you decide to go with, that you'll still be racing with cars that are much faster. Atleast by doing this, you'll have that knowledge on your side to help with your decision. Good luck to you with whatever you decide to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
opps..."racing racing" was corrected and it was road racing, but as for the classes for each where do i go to find out the class qualifications?. and jdmjerk as for my management im going to run hondata s200 with boost and maybe some othere stuff, and as for tuning i was thinking about going to titan motorsports in orlando.
opps..."racing racing" was corrected and it was road racing, but as for the classes for each where do i go to find out the class qualifications?. and jdmjerk as for my management im going to run hondata s200 with boost and maybe some othere stuff, and as for tuning i was thinking about going to titan motorsports in orlando.
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opps..."racing racing" was corrected and it was road racing, but as for the classes for each where do i go to find out the class qualifications?. and jdmjerk as for my management im going to run hondata s200 with boost and maybe some othere stuff, and as for tuning i was thinking about going to titan motorsports in orlando.</TD></TR></TABLE>
can't go wrong with hondata and a good tune
....just make sure you get good parts and you'll be ok
opps..."racing racing" was corrected and it was road racing, but as for the classes for each where do i go to find out the class qualifications?. and jdmjerk as for my management im going to run hondata s200 with boost and maybe some othere stuff, and as for tuning i was thinking about going to titan motorsports in orlando.</TD></TR></TABLE>
can't go wrong with hondata and a good tune
....just make sure you get good parts and you'll be ok
if i turbo i was going to use cp piston, eagle rods, balance the bottom, mild p&p on the ls head, the lovefab sst or the onefab turbo mani, precsion sc61 turbo, and a 31x6.5x3 fmic, RC 550cc injectors, tial 38mm wg, greddy type s bov, 3 in exhaust, and so on.
if i go N/a ill use crower 404's, crower dual valve spring and retainers, p&p ls head, dc sports 4-1 jdm header, rc 330 injectors, b&m fpr, port ls int. mani, bored tb, fully balanced bottom end w/ b16 pistons, and a b16 tranny with a 94+ gsr 5th.
if i go N/a ill use crower 404's, crower dual valve spring and retainers, p&p ls head, dc sports 4-1 jdm header, rc 330 injectors, b&m fpr, port ls int. mani, bored tb, fully balanced bottom end w/ b16 pistons, and a b16 tranny with a 94+ gsr 5th.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> if i go N/a ill use crower 404's, crower dual valve spring and retainers, p&p ls head, dc sports 4-1 jdm header, rc 330 injectors, b&m fpr, port ls int. mani, bored tb, fully balanced bottom end w/ b16 pistons, and a b16 tranny with a 94+ gsr 5th.
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......even a bolt on turbo kit w/o engine work would be faster than that n/a setup lol
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......even a bolt on turbo kit w/o engine work would be faster than that n/a setup lol
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