Turbo vs. Supercharger
i was thinking of boosting or super charging my itr and was wondering which one gives out more on a stock motor.
i dont know much about superchargers and i was wondering if it possible to boost and do a supercharger
i dont know much about superchargers and i was wondering if it possible to boost and do a supercharger
i'd go with turbo but that's me..
superchargers are for big engines at least V6 or better on V8. I believe they are design to give you alot of tourque but not on a small engine.
i dun know man you better off searching.. i dun know jack about it too
superchargers are for big engines at least V6 or better on V8. I believe they are design to give you alot of tourque but not on a small engine.
i dun know man you better off searching.. i dun know jack about it too
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you'll make more power turbo charging but you really need to change your pistons to reduce compression, otherwise say g'day to detonation.
Superchargers are belt driven while turbo's run off your exhaust pressure. I think turbo's can run alot more boost than Superchargers as well. However, Superchargers do not have as much (or if any) lag such as Turbo's. Therefore Superchargers have more throttle response in the lower RPM range. I think Superchargers also have better reliability.
With stock ITR compression, the MOST boost you could safely run would be approx 6-8psi with either Super or Turbo.
If i were to choose, i'd go turbo, then again if i had the cash it'd cost, i'd keep it NA and do some fine *** tuning.
With the ITR, more importantly than outright power is all round balance and tuning.
Ask yourself how you plan on driving the car and take it from there. There must be tons of info to be found between Turbo and Supercharging and there characteristics.
Superchargers are belt driven while turbo's run off your exhaust pressure. I think turbo's can run alot more boost than Superchargers as well. However, Superchargers do not have as much (or if any) lag such as Turbo's. Therefore Superchargers have more throttle response in the lower RPM range. I think Superchargers also have better reliability.
With stock ITR compression, the MOST boost you could safely run would be approx 6-8psi with either Super or Turbo.
If i were to choose, i'd go turbo, then again if i had the cash it'd cost, i'd keep it NA and do some fine *** tuning.
With the ITR, more importantly than outright power is all round balance and tuning.
Ask yourself how you plan on driving the car and take it from there. There must be tons of info to be found between Turbo and Supercharging and there characteristics.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALLMOTR_R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you'll make more power turbo charging but you really need to change your pistons to reduce compression, otherwise say g'day to detonation.
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Not true at all. There is no need to lower compression, that is a huge myth. If you get it tuned correctly, you can safely run the same amount of boost.
And a supercharger will not be "more reliable" than a turbo...again, tuning is key. But boost is boost and 8 psi on a supercharger isn't going to be more reliable than 8 psi on a turbo. (again, if properly tuned)
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Not true at all. There is no need to lower compression, that is a huge myth. If you get it tuned correctly, you can safely run the same amount of boost.
And a supercharger will not be "more reliable" than a turbo...again, tuning is key. But boost is boost and 8 psi on a supercharger isn't going to be more reliable than 8 psi on a turbo. (again, if properly tuned)
^yeah that. If you want to run 10+psi it would be very wise to install lower compression pistons, roughly anything over 14.5psi+ you might want to look into new rods as well. But as for a street-boosted R goes the stock pistons are fine for around 7psi.
All depends on what you want to do... Supercharger makes great power at about 10 psi and there is no lag. I miss mine very much.
They key to boost on a stock block is tuning.
They key to boost on a stock block is tuning.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALLMOTR_R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you'll make more power turbo charging but you really need to change your pistons to reduce compression, otherwise say g'day to detonation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
In a few words, basically turbochagers are more efficient and you definitely don't have to change pistons to lower compression. Higher compression just leaves you a smaller window for error. Tuning is key with higher compression.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Superchargers are belt driven while turbo's run off your exhaust pressure. I think turbo's can run alot more boost than Superchargers as well. However, Superchargers do not have as much (or if any) lag such as Turbo's. Therefore Superchargers have more throttle response in the lower RPM range. I think Superchargers also have better reliability.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, superchargers are belt driven and turbochargers use exhaust pressure. I'm not to sure about the running more boost part but I've never seen a supercharged honda run more than 12 psi. Blowers tend to have the power on tap and yes generally supercharged cars have much better throttle response. Tuning is key for reliability.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With stock ITR compression, the MOST boost you could safely run would be approx 6-8psi with either Super or Turbo.
Ask yourself how you plan on driving the car and take it from there. There must be tons of info to be found between Turbo and Supercharging and there characteristics.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A stock ITR can safely boost 8 psi, anything higher is really up to you.
I totally agree with the last part, build it to your needs and start reading up. There's more info in the archive than you can imagine.
In a few words, basically turbochagers are more efficient and you definitely don't have to change pistons to lower compression. Higher compression just leaves you a smaller window for error. Tuning is key with higher compression.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Superchargers are belt driven while turbo's run off your exhaust pressure. I think turbo's can run alot more boost than Superchargers as well. However, Superchargers do not have as much (or if any) lag such as Turbo's. Therefore Superchargers have more throttle response in the lower RPM range. I think Superchargers also have better reliability.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, superchargers are belt driven and turbochargers use exhaust pressure. I'm not to sure about the running more boost part but I've never seen a supercharged honda run more than 12 psi. Blowers tend to have the power on tap and yes generally supercharged cars have much better throttle response. Tuning is key for reliability.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With stock ITR compression, the MOST boost you could safely run would be approx 6-8psi with either Super or Turbo.
Ask yourself how you plan on driving the car and take it from there. There must be tons of info to be found between Turbo and Supercharging and there characteristics.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A stock ITR can safely boost 8 psi, anything higher is really up to you.
I totally agree with the last part, build it to your needs and start reading up. There's more info in the archive than you can imagine.
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