I have a 2002 type S and was on the hondata website today. It sounds like a good mod, if anyone has it, what do they think

 

Hondata #4 with a CAI is the best bang of the buck. I would highly recommend this mod.

 

please use the search feature

 

the question has been answered before.

 

"I have a 2002 type S and was on the hondata website today. It sounds like a good mod, if anyone has it, what do they think"

The Hondata reflash is an excellent mod. You send in your ECU, immobilizer, and key so that Hondata can reflash your ECU. The reflash changes the cam angle, ignition, and fueling tables. It also sets a lower VTEC point and gives you the option to increase fuel cutoff to 8600 rpm. The result of this is that a K-20a2 engine with just a CAI will see as much as 25 more horsepower and 20 pounds of extra torque at around 5800 rpm. The top gains will be somewhat less, perhaps 10 hp. Overall, the car feels transformed.

Anyone considering the reflash will probably also consider the Hondata K-Pro, which adds almost complete ECU programmability via a Windows application. The K-Pro comes with a variety of calibrations (each edgier than the standard reflash) and those can be used as starting points. The K-Pro also allows datalogging so that you can record and analyze your engine, check your air-fuel ratio in detail, play with different VTEC points or windows, track and exorcise knocking, and just generally learn a lot about your motor and how it reacts to different mods and settings. And if you add other mods, the K-Pro allows you to tune the car EXACTLY for those mods, so that they work up to their maximum potential.

 

what are the gains for a base?

 

Gains for the base are harder to tell. The base reflash does not change the VTEC point, so my guess is maybe 5-8 throughout the rpm range.

 

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umm...no.

search!

 

thanks for the guys that helped me out. what do you think about raising the rev. limiter on it .. and whats the difference between getting a muffler welded on and getting a whole system.

 

dont get a muffler welded on. get a full exhaust.

how much is the Hondata ECU? 600 bucks?

 

yea the website says 560 or 580 something. so after all the bs prolly 600. the only reason i asked about the exhaust was to save money for now. but now that i think about it, im gonna scrap that idea. hondata said they had 2 settings to choose from , keeping my rev limiter where its at or raising it to 8600, i wasnt sure where to go on that but i think im gonna have it raised. and for the guy who told me to search i did search and if you look at my first question it asks for comments from anybody who has it

 

A Hondata reflash is US$595. To have your own ECU upgraded to K-Pro status (daughterboard, USB port, software) by Hondata is US$995 (US$500 for reflash customers). To get a brand-new K-Pro ECU is US$1595.

 

ic ic , so right now with my plain ecu if i went to hondata it would cost me $1595 ?

 

Kind of a stupid question but I have heard that hondata makes you ivtec engagement less noticeable. I know this is because it smooths out the power band but is this true.?

 

Yes, you feel the VTEC kick less with the Hondata reflash. I'm willing to trade that kick for a smoother power delivery any day.

It would cost $595 for the reflash with your OEM Honda ECU.

I would definitely get the higher rev limiter. Just don't take it to 8600rpms all the damn time, and you'll be safe. I usually only take it to 8400rpms... It's pointless to go past that if you look at the dyno graphs.

 

i was kinda thinking ITR intake manifold, Cams, and the ITR flash. Isn't the rev limiter only at 8400? Do you think the Intake manifold, cams and maybe a DCRH and a really quit exhaust would bring back my engagement? I know this might sound stupid but i really do love when My CAI opens up with a kick!

 

You won't get that kick even with all those mods. Only reason we feel such a hard kick is because of the huge dip right before the big cam engages. Rev Limiter is set to 8600rpms with the Hondata reflash #4

 

cool thanks

 

not sure but do u have the Kpro reflash or just the whole new ecu. I aso saw on the hondata site that should not be used with boosted or nitrous applications and I have NX 25 shot that I would like to keep as well as I am at a dilema of getting a turbo or a bike. So if I can't go boosted what ecu can I use.

 

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No, if you don't have a reflash and send in your stock ECU to Hondata, they will upgrade it to K-Pro for around $999. $1,599 is if you want to keep your own stock ECU and buy a brandnew modified ECU from Hondata.

 

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You must NOT use the reflash with nitrous. However, the K-Pro work great with nitrous. It actually has a separate control panel just for nitrous. The K-pro lets you arm nitrous, set when if comes on and when it should stop, and it even adjusts fuel and timing for nitrous.

Just to reiterate. The difference between a reflash and the K-Pro is this: You can send in your stock ECU for a reflash. The car will run better, but can NOT change the ECU settings. It is just a static reflash. The K-Pro, on the other hand, upgrades a stock ECU with an internal daughterboard and a USB port. You can then use a Windows XP application to load calibrations into your ECU. You can change those calibrations anytime you want, and you can fine-tune them until your car runs just right. You can also use the K-Pro to datalog and then analyze the data from over 40 sensors to see patterns or make adjustments.

 

But the K-pro comes with some flashes that are already pretty well tuned.... it gives you a good starting point, then you can do any tweaking later.

 

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That's correct. All K-Pro calibrations are good starting points. By and large they are more aggressive than the reflashes, so initially you may encounter some knocking. That can easily be fixed.

 

Appreciate the info, it wuz more than helpful.

 

im driving down to the hondata dealer in fairfax, VA tonite. ill let you guys now how i made out