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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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it s my set up,
B18B block
B16a2 Head ( with intake and injectors from the si r )
si r pistons PR 3
ITR cam
cold air intake
headers custom 4 1
2 1/4 exhaust line with hi flow cat and type r muffler
VAFC and FPR soon

Can i put a turbo with this set up ???? if yes wat i need to change and buy, thx
I know i was more in the N/A way but i would like to become F/I

of course without this headers....

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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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Nope thats one of the only motors that can not be turbo'd
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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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<U>You need to buy a search engine first</U> then a...

turbo manifold
turbo
oil return line
oil feed
piping
blow off valve
wastegate

those are the main things
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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:09 AM
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i did a search but i didn t find a set up close to mine,

i switched my pistons to have more compression, but i know with a turbo you better with less compression,

wat i have to watch out to do my set up ????
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Old May 20, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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First of all youre going to have to ditch the 4-1 header... Then you'll probably want a bigger exhaust.

I would suggest searching around. Also check out some turbo kits to see what you need to boost your car.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cyrock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wat i have to watch out to do my set up ????</TD></TR></TABLE>

do not be cheap on parts(that is what you have to watch out with your setup). THey will come back and hurt you. Get a good fuel management, tune your stuff and your good to go.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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i ll check it out, thx for answering me
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Old May 20, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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Before you even continue posting...Read this guide. http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo....html
its only for generation 2 integras but its the same ****/idea. You can bolt any turbo on any compression pistons as long as you have the right management Read thats link, read it twice; youll learn some **** from it. I still read it and Im still learning everyday...Good Luck!
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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First, search and learn as much as you can. You want to know what your getting yourself into before you start throwing money around.

Your going to need a good amount of money, or you can buy parts and just keep saving and buying individually and piece together your kit. If you just want simple power with easily installation then go with a kit.

If your really serious about this. Study up, talk to a bunch of people. Start buying your kit in pieces. Buy top of the line stuff from top of the line people (Arturbo, Flamenco-T, Ben@Importparts are just a few lingering around here in the forced induction forum that can help you with great products and service). There is also a ton more people that will help (I know because they've guided me the entire way). Try and snag some good buys in the forced induction classifieds (I found a few great deals in there). Every little bit you save is cool, however that doesn't mean buy cheap **** just to get by, you'll pay for that in the long run. The biggest words of advice are "do it right the first time". Also, remember there are a lot of other things then just the basic parts to the turbo kit, theres installation of course, fuel management, tuning, down time, fix it up time, tons of bolts/nuts, tapping your oil line, getting those all run correctly and not leaking, finding places for your fans if you need to move them, perhaps ditching your AC if you have to (there are AC friendly kits/pieces). I mean there is a ton of things. Granted you have this site to guide you and help, don't do everything at once and don't just ask questions about every little thing. Do some searching and learn on your own...not everything can be spoon fed.

Here is a simple list (ill probably miss some things) of stuff.
turbo, manifold, wastegate, blow off valve, intercooler, intercooler piping, downpipe, cat/straight through, exhaust, spark plugs with adjusted gap, fuel lines/fittements, clamps/bolts/TOOLS, knowledge, dump tube for the wastegate, boost gauge, etc....so many things. do it right the first time and don't go half ***, find some buddies that have turbo's and then build it up yourself, you can learn a ton from that and its easier to fix problems if you understand the car and where everything is. be prepared for downtime/frustrating times, but most of all be prepared for a fast *** car, a great sound (bov) and a ton of fun.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cyrock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it s my set up,
B18B block
B16a2 Head ( with intake and injectors from the si r )
si r pistons PR 3
ITR cam
cold air intake
headers custom 4 1
2 1/4 exhaust line with hi flow cat and type r muffler
VAFC and FPR soon

Can i put a turbo with this set up ???? if yes wat i need to change and buy, thx
I know i was more in the N/A way but i would like to become F/I

of course without this headers....

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You can turbo a lawnmower if you wanted to.. Anything can be turbo'd.. What compression are you running..
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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my compression ratio should be :
11.639915784025111
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cyrock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my compression should be :
11.639915784025111
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Ok so 11.64.. Run a small amount of boost and you should be good.. also run race gas in there to keep detonation down..
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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8 psi should be good ????
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cyrock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">8 psi should be good ????</TD></TR></TABLE>

Errr... Make damn sure you tune it good and run 100+ octane race gas.. Also get a good intercooler to keep intake temps down..

I would suggest running like 4 psi and see where that gets you..
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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you think if i only boost 4psi, i should by one ?????
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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Buy one what?? If you mean a turbo kit.. Yes you should.. You will make more power with less boost with higher compression.. A person with 9:1 compression will use 9 psi where a person with 11.5: will use 4 psi..

Those are just examples to show you.. You will see a night and day difference with "only" 4 psi.. And youll make more lowend power than a 9:1 compression will.. Running FI with higher compression is fine and even better if you ask me.. People running lower compression are just making up for their lack of tuning..
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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thx for this information dude, i ll check it out how much it will cost to buy a kit
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cyrock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thx for this information dude, i ll check it out how much it will cost to buy a kit </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why a kit?? Build your own turbo setup.. And if you were going to buy a kit you would not need 1000cc injectors..

Check into getting some DSM injectors.. From a DSM.. You can get a set of 450cc ones for under $100 here on honda-tech..
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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good idea but i m a newbie like you saw, ah

i need a complete list wat i need to buy for this 4 psi turbo
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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you should buy a clue before you try and buy any turbo parts.

yea, im an ***. but im just playin

you need to do some serious research. try getting a book, there are some very helpful ones out there.

also search on here to find as much as you can. you are not going to find your exact setup, but if you actually understand a turbo system, then you would understand how it would effect your set up.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cyrock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good idea but i m a newbie like you saw, ah

i need a complete list wat i need to buy for this 4 psi turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>

****.. Sorry I got another post confused with yours.. Im replying to 2 different posts one after another.. Forget about the 1000cc injector stuff.. Thats something that I was explaining to another guy from Germany..

How much do you know about turbo setups in general..

And listed to envision2teg.. Hes an *** but hes right.. You should understand everything about turbo setups that you can long before you plan to do your own..

Go here.. This was the first thing I ever read before I did my turbo setup..
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm

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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why a kit?? Build your own turbo setup.. And if you were going to buy a kit you would not need 1000cc injectors..

Check into getting some DSM injectors.. From a DSM.. You can get a set of 450cc ones for under $100 here on honda-tech..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Got my used DSM's for alittle more then $50 on ebay

11.64 is really high compression ratio for turbo. I dunno , but if i were in your shoes i would put lower compression pistons in there for sure.. 11.6 is risky as hell and you will probably detonate everywhere.. HOWEVER with the proper engine management you can do it, but the tuning will have to be superb. like i said, if this was MY engine i would lower the CR end of story.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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I second that. A very high compression..however, you'll make very good power on a very low amount of boost. I hope you have a great tuner and I hope you know how to fix things. Tuning is the biggest thing along with your engine management. Take care of those 2 things, then you can start thinking about turbo.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J337_UNIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
11.64 is really high compression ratio for turbo. I dunno , but if i were in your shoes i would put lower compression pistons in there for sure.. 11.6 is risky as hell and you will probably detonate everywhere.. HOWEVER with the proper engine management you can do it, but the tuning will have to be superb. like i said, if this was MY engine i would lower the CR end of story.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm... Dont know if I agree with you there.. It is eaiser to kill detonation with less boost but the fact remains.. If your using more boost and compressing it less or using less boost and compressing it more.. Whats the difference.. Also you will have alot more lowend power with more compression..

Now I do agree that 11.64 is a little high but it can be done.. I would only run 4 psi and see how that fairs out for you.. And do get it tuned very well.. Dont use an fmu or some **** like that..
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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i ll read a lot about that and i keep you guys in touch about that,
thx again for everything
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