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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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im wanting to take my redline to 9k, im planning on purchasing portflow valve springs, but i need a good set of retainers than can take 9k my buddy used portflow retainers and he broke one of them.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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why not ITR retainers?
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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well the itr redline is 8500. i plan to exceed that.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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i think the redline is more geared to the ITR's valve springs, not the retainers
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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well im a bit paranoid,

when my buddy broke his retainer, his valves were bent and he had alot of problems getting everything fixed.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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Default Re: retainers (slowpokesi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well im a bit paranoid,

when my buddy broke his retainer, his valves were bent and he had alot of problems getting everything fixed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i guess you need to do a little more research so that you are comfortable with your setup, i just know that a few people here run ITR retainers, have fun!!
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Old May 19, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Default Re: retainers (andrewasf77)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im wanting to take my redline to 9k, im planning on purchasing portflow valve springs, but i need a good set of retainers than can take 9k my buddy used portflow retainers and he broke one of them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I heard port flow valve springs were awesome for 9k-10k. I would get either skunk2 retainers or crower retainers. Both of them do a good job but im not sure which one will hold under high revs? Anyone?
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Old May 19, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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itr retainers are the same damn thing as GSRs. lol

stock retainers should be able to handle 9k with portflow valvesprings.

I tend to stay away from Titanium retainers b/c of their quick wear issues and horror stories.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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what about isky retainers??

and since were on the subject, can i use Bseries retainers on a sohc D?
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Old May 19, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 7thGear &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about isky retainers??

and since were on the subject, can i use Bseries retainers on a sohc D?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No i dont beleive you can use B series retainers on D series motors. Actually, i highly doubt it. I wouldnt go with isky retainers. Get skunk2 retainers or crower retainers, make sure you have valves and springs though. Crower springs are nice and stiff, they are good for high rpm.(9-10k)
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Old May 19, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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Stock retainers would be fine. Just remember there isn't really a need to rev your car that high if your loosing power there.

Titanium retainers are a great upgrade for lightening the valvetrain, just remember that they are a wear item. So keep that in mind. There are advancements in retainers like TiN coated ones etc... to help prevent wear characteristics commonly associate with Ti retainers.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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Default Re: retainers (Mr Milano)

again since we are on the subject

i have plans to upgrade the cam on my SOHC, but i ran into a little snag ( namely having to have my head machined) and so the 300 bux that was gonna go towards a cam is gonna go towards the shop

but while there i can atleast get them to upgrade the valvetrain so i wont have to pop my head off later on when i get the cam

soo... my question

whats more important for high rpm operation, quality of retainers or springs?

i was originaly planning on getting a crower stage 2 cam, they say power goes up to 7500 and then some, and they "recomend" their springs/retainer kit

how good are typical SOHC springs/retainers?.... but at the same time this is on a 100K mile engine!! so maybe its good to change them anyway....

**** being on a college budget sucks ***
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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^^ If you get cams, you should get retainers and springs and valves.....you dont wanna do this half ***. Plus if you get cam gears you never know you could make power up to 8200. Dont go half way, if you get cams, get retainers, valves and springs, running on stock cam gears sucks to so you should get jun gears. Save up a little more and purchase them all together, youll have a pretty reliable top end.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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Default Re: retainers (civic_hatchback)

well thats why i wanted to do the springs first, so that when i save up for a cam, i wont have to take the head off completly.

guess i'm getting springs,
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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^^ If you get springs then you should go with valves and retainers too, cause its all near each other. You will be charged more if you get them done seperatly, just like a clutch and flywheel, you want to get them installed at the same time so it doesnt cost you double.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Default Re: retainers (civic_hatchback)

do i really need new valves, the ones i have are in perfect condition, i'm not building an all out race motor here... thats when crower stage 3 rolls around

but seriously tho
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Old May 19, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Default Re: retainers (7thGear)

What valves do you have right now? Are they after markey or stock? After markey is almost always better than stock
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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Default Re: retainers (civic_hatchback)

stock retainers, no issues w/ galling.

My buddy w/ an ITR has taken his to 9200rpm on several occasions.

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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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Default Re: retainers (Sleeper Status)

^^^doesnt mean hes making power at 9200 rpms. My bro has taken his b16 up to 9k but doesnt make power past 8500.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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Default Re: retainers (civic_hatchback)

my valves are stock...

i dont understand you people, i'm not making a super performance engine here, just something with a little more zip than the rest of the crowd.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Default Re: retainers (civic_hatchback)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_hatchback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What valves do you have right now? Are they after markey or stock? After markey is almost always better than stock
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lol
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Old May 21, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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^^What are you laughing at? markey?lol didnt notice that till now.
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