Any one used the Spoon Ventuli Plate (IM gasket) ??
i have not used it but i was thinking of getting one tell i read about people that had them were saying it was a pice of **** and the price for it was to high .
If i were in your shoes I would rather buy the polyethelene IM gaskets made by AN-R, Hondata, and Nextgear. They're around 60 bucks shipped and Nextgear has a dyno plot where someone made 8 whp.
it may help midrange on a stock or mildly modded R, but personally I think any kind of a build and this plate will hinder performance
just guessing due to the fact it makes your IM openings smaller
it was REAL expensive when i saw it too, I just got a hondata gasket
just guessing due to the fact it makes your IM openings smaller
it was REAL expensive when i saw it too, I just got a hondata gasket
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pat McGroin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If i were in your shoes I would rather buy the polyethelene IM gaskets made by AN-R, Hondata, and Nextgear. They're around 60 bucks shipped and Nextgear has a dyno plot where someone made 8 whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
2 different things completely. The Ventuli (or Venturi before anyone starts arguing) plate was designed to make midrange power, and you WILL lose top end power. My roommate had a B16 in his hatch around 97. There was a Ventuli plate sitting at the shop, so we decided to try it, and the results were as expected, a little midrange grunt, and the motor fell flat up top. Dyno results showed a loss of 11whp peak, with a large drop after 5500rpm.
The Hondata style gaskets don't make power, they allow the intake mani to remain cooler, due to the spacer.
2 different things completely. The Ventuli (or Venturi before anyone starts arguing) plate was designed to make midrange power, and you WILL lose top end power. My roommate had a B16 in his hatch around 97. There was a Ventuli plate sitting at the shop, so we decided to try it, and the results were as expected, a little midrange grunt, and the motor fell flat up top. Dyno results showed a loss of 11whp peak, with a large drop after 5500rpm.
The Hondata style gaskets don't make power, they allow the intake mani to remain cooler, due to the spacer.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mastarolla »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good if you want usable power, bad if you enjoy those 9500 RPM passes</TD></TR></TABLE>
It actually falls flat well before 9500, even before 7500rpm.
It actually falls flat well before 9500, even before 7500rpm.
you have to remember most spoon stuf were designed for a specific race they enter. the ventuli plate is mainly for b16b (ctr),were by using this you gained midrange but lost high end. perfect for some of the short tracks, just like the toda headers were you gain torque but lost high end.
not reallygood here in the u.s. were you either hit 1/4 or most tracks were wide open. some autoX people that i talked to said they liked it. but thats about all they are good for.
not reallygood here in the u.s. were you either hit 1/4 or most tracks were wide open. some autoX people that i talked to said they liked it. but thats about all they are good for.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Got time »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">money can be spent elsewhere.
not worth the cash.
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not worth the cash.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by esponet »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you have to remember most spoon stuf were designed for a specific race they enter. the ventuli plate is mainly for b16b (ctr),were by using this you gained midrange but lost high end. perfect for some of the short tracks, just like the toda headers were you gain torque but lost high end.
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It was designed for the B16a.
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It was designed for the B16a.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It was designed for the B16a. </TD></TR></TABLE>
wich is basically all type r motors DUUUUHHHRRRRRR
It was designed for the B16a. </TD></TR></TABLE>
wich is basically all type r motors DUUUUHHHRRRRRR
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slow_Em1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wich is basically all type r motors DUUUUHHHRRRRRR
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The Ventuli plate was designed for the B16a, not the higher flowing head, and intake manifold used on the B16b.
wich is basically all type r motors DUUUUHHHRRRRRR
</TD></TR></TABLE>The Ventuli plate was designed for the B16a, not the higher flowing head, and intake manifold used on the B16b.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by esponet »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> just like the toda headers were you gain torque but lost high end.
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Funny..My toda header gained me top end and I lost torque
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Funny..My toda header gained me top end and I lost torque
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