I'm upstate, and the word is that the State is mandating that the current OBD2-based emissions testing currently in place in NYC be instituted upstate as well this summer. The rule is that any car 96 or newer (but older than two model years) has to be hooked up to an OBD2 tester in order to pass the inspection. No pass, no sticker.

How do people downstate who have 96 and newer cars with older (OBD1) swaps get through the inspection? Are there loopholes? I'm flipping out up here, and would LOVE to hear stories and or any information whatsoever on what's to come up here... Thanks!

 

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Bump!

 

In CT there is a $600 waiver to become exempt from emissions, there is also a beaucratic/paperwork process where you bring your car to DMV headquarters, and they do some testing.

So, basically, read up on the laws in your state.

-PHiZ

In cali, ppl put there car back to stock every two years

 

drive down to the city, there are plenty of shops that'll "pass you" for about $60-70.

 

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but of course

 

In CT, the emissions stations(independant shops) are videotaped, and the OBD2 diagnostic machines report to a central server somewhere.

Just to give everyone some background on how things are done.
-PHiZ

BTW, emissions just got shut down here again, because the system is so horribly fucked.

 

Aside from the 3 1/2 hour drive south to the city, do you think it's possible to just hook up an OBD2 Civic and pass that car, and put the sticker on my car???

 

Can the diagnostic computer read the VIN out of the ECU and report it directly to the central server?
-PHiZ

 

That's what I need to know... If it doesn't track VINs, then I'm set...

 

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-PHiZ</TD></TR></TABLE>

OBD2 ECUs do not record VINs. They do have a certain data tag similar to a checksum that correlates to what vehicle the ECU is intended for, but I don't know if that is even scanned. I doubt it, since Hondata's K-Pro alters that tag, and those guys still pass Cali OBD2 emissions.

 

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OBD2 ECUs do not record VINs. They do have a certain data tag similar to a checksum that correlates to what vehicle the ECU is intended for, but I don't know if that is even scanned. I doubt it, since Hondata's K-Pro alters that tag, and those guys still pass Cali OBD2 emissions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll agree to a point. I don't think that the ECU has a UID such as VIN. But I do believe it's possible, and it's a topic we should be on the lookout for going forward.

However, I don't think you can compare OBD2 ECU's and the K-series ECUs without some qualifying statments....

-PHiZ

 

Good info! Makes my car's "future" a little brighter...

 

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However, I don't think you can compare OBD2 ECU's and the K-series ECUs without some qualifying statments....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, most OBD2 Honda ECUs lack the flash architecture mandated by the EPA, except the 99-00 Si ECU which lacks the 66Q589 required to be a flashable platform.

Pffft. As far as recording VIN numbers, the communication across the OBD2 connector is standardized for ALL OBD2 ECUs - K-series, other Honda OBD2, or the miscegenated GM crapwagon stuff. VIN recording will not take place until OBD3, and as far as I can tell that is still conjecture.

 

Back from the dead...

Just fishing for more ideas and/or thoughts on this... The car should be back on the road within a week or so, and it's gonna need an inspection....

 

convert it to a OBD1. then they cant do anything.....

I have never delt with emission testing, so I cant really speak.