was jsut wondering...roughly how much horsepower to weight ratio would put me into low 13's?

 

With good driving/traction/suspension you could probably hit low 13's with about 2200 lbs and 180 whp.

 

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i'd say 170ish..

 

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i'd say 170ish..</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'd be willing to drop to 160-165. suspension and tires are your main issue. if you cannot get the power to the ground, it is worthless.

 

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i'd say 170ish..</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed

 

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i'd be willing to drop to 160-165. suspension and tires are your main issue. if you cannot get the power to the ground, it is worthless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you'd probably hav eto start getting into the 1.7 60fts or better at 160-165 2200lbs..

depends on soo omany things though.. so it's almost not worth discussing

 

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you'd probably hav eto start getting into the 1.7 60fts or better at 160-165 2200lbs..

depends on soo omany things though.. so it's almost not worth discussing</TD></TR></TABLE>

very true. altitude, air temp, densidy, track conditions, ect, ect.

 

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very true. altitude, air temp, densidy, track conditions, ect, ect.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Altitude makes a very big difference in n/a cars.

 

1800lbs, with you in it.

150whp+

and decent gearing.

Play with this
it'll give you an IDEA (not factual) of what is needed.


edit: around 12lbs per HP should do the trick.

 

thanks guys.....i know there is alot to take into consideration.....lets face i just want my hatch to be faster then that mustang that pulls up next to me with some white trash mullet driving it....(lot of them around here)

 

Hmm that thing isn't even close
it gave me 17.1
on a 2400 lb car. with 110(generous for a 180k stock si) flywheel hp
I ran a 15.9

 

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i'd say 170ish..</TD></TR></TABLE>

anyone have any #s or timeslips to prove this? im not doubting it at all. and is this on street tires or slicks?

 

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anyone have any #s or timeslips to prove this? im not doubting it at all. and is this on street tires or slicks?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i ran 13.1 with a ZC on ZEX... it doesn't take a crazy amout of WHP in an EF to tap the 13's.

 

was that on street tires or slicks?

 

i saw some guy in a hatch back with an itr i/e/h run mid 12s on slicks. So you figure that he was pushing what 180 or 190 whp? I'm know im guess but either way i figured 170 should net you 13s pretty easy.

DEF

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eresuncabron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm that thing isn't even close
it gave me 17.1
on a 2400 lb car. with 110(generous for a 180k stock si) flywheel hp
I ran a 15.9</TD></TR></TABLE>
first, have your car weighed with you in it.
then, get your car dynoed.
finally, compare it to the link i posted.

You can't estimate your curb weight with you in the car, then estimate how much HP you make and expect it to be even close.

For me, at a race, my car weighed at 2264lb with me in it and it made 134whp.
my best run was a 14.80 at that weight. the link says 14.90. Pretty close.

 

OK... here is what I'm sayin
curb weight for my car is like 2300 or somethin... so i put 2400
I'm probably making 80 whp with my stock D16A6 with 180k miles on it
i gave myself the benefit of the doubt and gave myself 30 extra hp
and the time was still over a second slower then I ran.

it's way off. i could dyno the car and weigh it and I'll get similar numbers and put them in... it'll still tell me that i run 17.1
maybe it works for other cars but not for mine... who can argue with the numbers i put in... the hp was generous and it still gave me a slow time

sry to be a dick or whatever... i was just sayin it didn't work for me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eresuncabron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK... here is what I'm sayin
curb weight for my car is like 2300 or somethin... so i put 2400
I'm probably making 80 whp with my stock D16A6 with 180k miles on it
i gave myself the benefit of the doubt and gave myself 30 extra hp
and the time was still over a second slower then I ran.

it's way off. i could dyno the car and weigh it and I'll get similar numbers and put them in... it'll still tell me that i run 17.1
maybe it works for other cars but not for mine... who can argue with the numbers i put in... the hp was generous and it still gave me a slow time

sry to be a dick or whatever... i was just sayin it didn't work for me</TD></TR></TABLE>
From what ive read most A6s dyno around 100whp regardless of the amount of miles on them

 

Try this one...Its supprisingly accurate.

http://www.torinocobra.com/horsepower.htm

 

ok, so about how much do you think a full-interiored' '91 CRX DX weigh with a b16??

 

Yeah.. .that one is better.

 

People always forget about the torque...

 

power to weight ratio

thats only why hondas are fast

 

a JDM type R will do it for sure OR Maybe SIR GSR 185hp might with few bolts ons

if your car is stock suspension I think it should be able to handle it but I don't know I only had a 185hp stock b16a.

I don't know about the torque factor

 

Last year, my car weighed 2340 with me in it and I had around 170-175 whp. 13.6@101 on drag radials with 2.1 60'