Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

W T F !!! cylinders are dry and kinda rusted ? HELP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 01:14 PM
  #1  
daklown's Avatar
Thread Starter
Dat Dere Cell Tech
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,177
Likes: 0
From: The Riff Filled Land
Default W T F !!! cylinders are dry and kinda rusted ? HELP

alright. i got an LS motor from a friend that sat in his yard for a year or so, covered with a tarp. long story short, it wont run well, cant go anywhere, will idle for a second to a minute and i have to hold the gas down and **** some to keep it going then itll shut off. Anyways, my head is off now, and my cylinders look kinda rusty (a little) and reallly damn dry. could my rings need to be changed or what ? ill get pics up later, but please try to go ahead and answer if possible id like to finish tonight. thanks a ton

also, my crank is HARD to turn with a ratchet







Modified by daklown at 4:56 PM 4/27/2004
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 01:18 PM
  #2  
Nsane1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
From: West Bakalakadaka St., Durka Durka Mohammed Gihad, WMDs
Default Re: W T F !!! cylinders are dry and kinda rusted ? HELP (daklown)

Dude you seriously have some shitty luck w/ engines. I can't answer your problem but, it seems like your car is cursed.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 01:21 PM
  #3  
daklown's Avatar
Thread Starter
Dat Dere Cell Tech
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,177
Likes: 0
From: The Riff Filled Land
Default Re: W T F !!! cylinders are dry and kinda rusted ? HELP (VogueSilverHX)

yes i do.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 01:25 PM
  #4  
eyeamvic's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 599
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio, Texas
Default

Get some oversized pistons with rings, bore/hone, put it back together. Should've taken it apart and checked it while you had it. But then again, you were probably like me and just anxious to get the motor in.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 01:56 PM
  #5  
daklown's Avatar
Thread Starter
Dat Dere Cell Tech
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,177
Likes: 0
From: The Riff Filled Land
Default

nah this ones staying stock.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:00 PM
  #6  
boostedbastard's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: Elizabethton, tn, usa
Default Re: (daklown)

well get a bottle honer and some rings at least, youll need it
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:06 PM
  #7  
daklown's Avatar
Thread Starter
Dat Dere Cell Tech
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,177
Likes: 0
From: The Riff Filled Land
Default

i got some rings....

i found out the motor was turbo for a week also and the owner took it out cause it started to smoke

i guess its the rings.

honer---autozone ? and how much skill is there to honing...like can i mess it up or what
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:07 PM
  #8  
owen_the_soyboy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 8,388
Likes: 2
From: Rochester, NY
Default Re: (boostedbastard)

WHOA!

1) you SERIOUSLY need some oil one those cylinder walls!
2) those cylinder walls look like they NEED to be honed... at a MINIMUM!
3) my guess is that you need to take the block out and have a machine shop BORE it oversize, buy new pistons and rings too.. nice, that = big bucks... but also offers you a chance to put in higher comp. pistons for all-motor or lower comp. for boost.
4) dude, this exactly why its important to know what you are buying!


HTH
-Owen
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:12 PM
  #9  
daklown's Avatar
Thread Starter
Dat Dere Cell Tech
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,177
Likes: 0
From: The Riff Filled Land
Default

theres no way that block is coming out. this is my fourth god damn motor in the past 6 months. i dont want to go into it, but i want to hone it, put my rings in, and get on with my life without working on my car.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:19 PM
  #10  
Milano_EH3's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 561
Likes: 0
Default

If that block isn't coming out then then your car isn't going anywhere. Your cylinder walls are jacked. Everyone has already said what I would suggest so...good luck.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:22 PM
  #11  
Imprezor's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
From: Caracas, Venezuela
Default Re: W T F !!! cylinders are dry and kinda rusted ? HELP (daklown)

Dude a year of no runing makes your cylinders look like that hehe. See, as you know, cylinders are exposed to very hight temperatures. When metal exposes to those temperatures it's easier for it to oxidize, just like it happens to the exhaust manifold for example. Take it to a machine chop, get a good job done, and try.

Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:23 PM
  #12  
Mike_C's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 11,272
Likes: 1
From: Arlington, VA
Default

buy something stock?
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:27 PM
  #13  
trooper0641's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,933
Likes: 0
From: Garden Grove 714 Orange County, CA, USA
Default Re: (MichaelJComputer)

WD-40
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:55 PM
  #14  
daklown's Avatar
Thread Starter
Dat Dere Cell Tech
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,177
Likes: 0
From: The Riff Filled Land
Default

money
time

just tell me: was it the rings ? please.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:00 PM
  #15  
CooBlueDAB's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,182
Likes: 1
From: Never Never Land, Ohio, USA
Default Re: (daklown)

I dont know if it was the rings, but by observation, if the rings were rusty, they probably put some shavings and grooves on them right? even small? ergo, wouldnt the pistons be scratched too? and wouldnt that lose compression resulting in bad performance on every aspect? Therefore, replace rings with stock? and maybe piston heads?

I am no expert, just going through the thought process I learned from here and tearing apart my uncle's motor.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:22 PM
  #16  
daklown's Avatar
Thread Starter
Dat Dere Cell Tech
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,177
Likes: 0
From: The Riff Filled Land
Default

im in the process of re ringing the damn thing right now. and im honing it too, cause the scratches are pretty little.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:42 PM
  #17  
Kista20's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,215
Likes: 0
From: Firefighting in Virginia, USA
Default Re: (daklown)

that is one nasty lookin motor. first of all on you for getting an engine that had been sitting outside for a year, second I would not use that engine at all. Since you want to use it I would get a scotchbrite pad and clean all that rust around the sleeves and wash it out real good. Make sure you clean that thing real good if not some of that might clog up some of the coolant pasages.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:45 PM
  #18  
slowhatch4now's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 0
From: Inn, Deea
Default Re: (Kista20)

Get rid of that and get a new motor man.
peace
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:47 PM
  #19  
jdm4dr's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
From: TR, nj, usa
Default

i woulda atleast put some oil in the cylinders and cranked it without the spark plug wires on the plugs to lube those puppies up. its worth a try and it doesnt seem like you want to put any beans into it.whoever sold you that shizmo wasnt a friend haha. i hope they gave it to you for cheap or free even.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 06:36 PM
  #20  
H22A EG6's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 627
Likes: 0
From: Add 2291 posts Lil Sumo Town, Minnesota, USA
Default Re: (jdm4dr)

i would dump that ****
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:22 PM
  #21  
daklown's Avatar
Thread Starter
Dat Dere Cell Tech
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,177
Likes: 0
From: The Riff Filled Land
Default

UPDATE:
there was a rag in the oil filter ? WTF.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:25 PM
  #22  
Tad's Avatar
Tad
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,051
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default Re: (daklown)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daklown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">UPDATE:
there was a rag in the oil filter ? WTF.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahhaha wtf

oh and put on a new headgasket
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:28 PM
  #23  
Setsuna F Seiei's Avatar
Honda-Tech Platinum Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,767
Likes: 3
From: Chicongoland area, IL
Default Re: W T F !!! cylinders are dry and kinda rusted ? HELP (daklown)

hone it (crosshatch pattern) get new rings since its must've gotten fucked up when u turned your car over, if thats my car n im stuck with that engine, i wouldve bored it out bigger pistons, bigger connecting rods, molly rings= bigger HP!
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:42 PM
  #24  
turbozc2001's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: eureka, ca, usa
Default Re: (daklown)

there was a rag in the oil filter ? WTF.

thats funny#####lucky is not TAMPAX..
feel sorry you got no luck....
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:10 PM
  #25  
Cruiser G's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Default Re: (daklown)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daklown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">UPDATE:
there was a rag in the oil filter ? WTF.</TD></TR></TABLE>

heheheheh oh god I'm sorry I just started cracking up. But seriously I'm sorry man thats not cool, but just keep it simple. If you want try honing it with new rings but if all else fails just get an old stock d-series that someone swapped out for cheap. At least it will work.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:25 PM.