I just noticed on Rocket's forums.

That's impressive.

http://m24x.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=1010
http://m24x.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=997

Anyone have details?

 

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That's impressive.

http://m24x.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=1010
http://m24x.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=997

Anyone have details?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It has a big * next to it because he was running a narrow axle rear with spindle mounts, which we all know isn't exactly a street car setup.

 

yes i was quite disappointed that NDRA actually let that car run in the Comp 4 class - that was no where even close to a "street" car - i know we all push the rules but that was a little absurd

James

 

Actually didn't notice that in the thread.

 

I give him props on running good times, and building a bad *** motor, but spindle mounts on a streetcar is kinda extreme

 

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noth'n streetable about that.

 

Yea, it wasn't exactly a "street" car w/ spindle mount and staging brake BUT when i talked to them they said they are going to change that stuff out for the next event, i mean from what i was told they only saved 35 pds on the rear axle how much is that going to hurt it? not much. let them chime in w/ what they built that car too.

 

35 pounds here...20 there....those tenths add up...

way to go...closer and closer to the big "10"!!

 

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Well Wheelie bars only weight 25 pounds, but sometimes its not the weight thats the problem, its the Result..

 

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we lost 92 lbs with our solid rear setup. unless they used a solid piece of tubing 35 is a little on the low end.

 

anybody have pics of the car?

 

[QUOTE=bruceleeroy]anybody have pics of the car?[/QUOTE

 

From Brian*Blue95M3's thread of pics

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompressionFed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">35 pounds here...20 there....those tenths add up...

way to go...closer and closer to the big "10"!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

i understand that, i thought it was unfair also but once i heard thier side of the story it made sense. Let them come in here and defend themselves.

 

the rotors they are running are definitely not streetable either. The gain from those by loss of rotational weight is a big one. i guess they are legal but i think there should be a rule for stock rotors or at least stock thickness.

Car was built to the hilt, mad props. With or without the spindles, rear axle and anything else in question these guys are the ones to watch out for! I am/was impressed!

 

Thing is there is still better times to run in that car/engine set-up.

A lil Nascar experience goes a long ways

Brad and Howard at RLZ.

 

sad part about it is, the car would have run 11.30's with a stock'ish rear and no hand brake. it would be a super nice "street class" car and would be way more impressive. they didn't need that stuff to have a respectable and very fast car, but having the car set up the way it was did not "represent" what that class is intended to be. from my point of view at least.

from what i understand it will not be allowed to run the NOPI comp 4 class anymore set up the way it is. can anyone confirm that?

 

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from what i understand it will not be allowed to run the NOPI comp 4 class anymore set up the way it is. can anyone confirm that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

as far as i know you are correct - i spoke with the guys from inlinepro who protested the car in the semifinals when they had to run them and nopi said we will let you run it this time but don't come back like that again which i feel is ridiculous - well we will let you break the rules set forth now but don't do it again - gives NDRA no credibility - i think i might run wheelie bars on my turbo 4 car at the next race - they will probably let me do it that one time but not again - come on now

 

I didn't look closely, but didn't it have a fiberglass tailgate also?

I heard people talking about protesting the car, but I guess no one did. When I first saw it I thought it was a pro car for sure. I was more impressed with the street cars in Comp 4.

 

From what I was told, people were trying to get the NDRA techs to look closer at the car all weekend as things were in question. It took the InlinePro guys refusal to run the round for them to take a look at the car and see the rules were pushed a little too far.

I also understand that the RLZ folks asked ahead of time about some of the things they did to the car and were told it would be okay. If that is the case then I feel bad for them for being misinformed.

I was also told the modifications to the rear suspension required a little cutting and tinning to be done to the chassis. If this is the case then the chassis is done unless they can weld all the stock plates back in. I know that can be done but it is a lot of work. They have over a month to fix things for Cordova and I believe we will see them out there ready to run and open for inspection. They are not going to give up!

I don't think they will take this as a step backwards but a step forward. I hope they come on here and explain things to everyone so there are no stupid rumors flying around. I got what I said 2nd hand, not sure how accurate it is, I apologize if it is not!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4piston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didn't look closely, but didn't it have a fiberglass tailgate also?

I heard people talking about protesting the car, but I guess no one did. When I first saw it I thought it was a pro car for sure. I was more impressed with the street cars in Comp 4.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes but as far as i know that is allowed to have a fiberglass tailgate, just like coupes are allowed to have fiberglass and CF trunks.

The car setup as is will not be able to run NOPI C4 agian, the stock rear has to be put back in and the hand brake must be taken out.

 

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i believe that is allowed!

According to the rules

1.5
BODY
"lightweight parts limited to hood, fenders, rear deck and ground effects only."

i think the hatch and deck lid can be considered the same thing! If not NDRA needs to clarify that!

Of course the next sentence under 1.5-BODY is a double negative:

"No cutting or drilling of body chassis or removal of other components for purpose of lightening vehicle prohibited."

-need to remove the "No" at the beginning or the "Prohibited" at the end as it says we need to cut, drill and remove other components as it reads now! Thought that was kind of funny!

right now, anyone who did any cutting has a foot to stand on!





Modified by 95GLX at 10:52 PM 4/27/2004

 

i dont think it followed this rule either

• WHEELBASE: Stock wheelbase must be retained.


here it looks like the rear wheel is pretty far forward in that wheel well.

other than that, looks like RLZ really has their stuff together and will be top dogs this year.

 

Got any pics of your new CRX, Gordon.

Looks like You, Peter Chen, and RLZ are top dogs in the field.

 

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i believe that is allowed!

According to the rules

1.5
BODY
"lightweight parts limited to hood, fenders, rear deck and ground effects only."

i think the hatch and deck lid can be considered the same thing! If not NDRA needs to clarify that!
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I would also like some clarification on this rule.....