is it possiable to run methonal on a street race car safely ????

 

I dont really think so. Methanol from what I know is corrosive and is known for rusting cylinder walls rather quickly. Also you can use or force a ton more methanol into an engine rather than gasoline. It also breaks down the oil in your engine rather quickly also and not to metnion burns and irritates the **** out of your eyes and throat.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ringgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to metnion burns and irritates the **** out of your eyes and throat. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, ive experienced this first hand its not pleasant

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ringgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont really think so. Methanol from what I know is corrosive and is known for rusting cylinder walls rather quickly. Also you can use or force a ton more methanol into an engine rather than gasoline. It also breaks down the oil in your engine rather quickly also and not to metnion burns and irritates the **** out of your eyes and throat. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup!! when you run meth you have to purge your fuel system (all steel, no ruber lines can be used) out with gasoline to prevent dammage to the componets at the end of the race day.

Does anyone know it ethanol can be run on a daily D.?? I've heard that because of it's 2% or so of gas/fuel (if I am rembering correctly) it is not as caustic.

Can someone in the know confirm or deny??

 

well what about safely with a built motor, built for methonal
when its built for methonal can u run gas on it too?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 12SecHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well what about safely with a built motor, built for methonal
when its built for methonal can u run gas on it too?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you built the engine with high *** comp i don't think you'll be able to run with gas unless u de-tune the timing real low. You can run a mix of meth and gas. It'll be kick ***. there was a guy on the boards with a b16a 500hp gas/meth setup.

 

anodizing anything the fuel comes into contact with, utilizing a fuel setup made for meth, and cleaning the car everytime after running it. I dont think it would be wise to try meth on a street car unless you plan to make 700 plus horsepower.-pdang

 

its not legal for any of the street classes thats for sure. and if you can't make 700-750 on gas, you shouldn't even be thinking about meth.....in a turbo car at least.

 

i run methanol kit which works perfect for my car. i'm able to boost higher on 91 gas in california. i would recommend it for turbocharge cars.


koua

 

oh yeah i run 25psi everyday on meth. which is about 650hp on the street.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kouasupra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yeah i run 25psi everyday on meth. which is about 650hp on the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Meth = race car, you can easily make 700whp on race gas which is fine on the street.

 

isnt methanol alcohol which will damage rubber after a while such as injector o rings???

the thing burns your eyes and make them teary, when ever we start up the race car at the shop i start tearing from the alcohol, they also put something in the gas to make them smell good like fruits or something, prolly depends on where u get it from

 

Yeah you can get that smell good stuff from Summit I saw it in there before. I wander if it will smell good if you were to put it in regular gas? haha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alloutmotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isnt methanol alcohol which will damage rubber after a while such as injector o rings???

the thing burns your eyes and make them teary, when ever we start up the race car at the shop i start tearing from the alcohol, they also put something in the gas to make them smell good like fruits or something, prolly depends on where u get it from</TD></TR></TABLE>

it will damage it if you let it sit for a while. if you race for a weekend and flush the system with gas youll be cool for a long while.

and the other thing is called top lube. while it does add some good smell to the fuel, its main 2 purposes are lubing the clylinder walls and making a flame visible. without top lube you most likely wont see meth when its on fire.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ringgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah you can get that smell good stuff from Summit I saw it in there before. I wander if it will smell good if you were to put it in regular gas? haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

they say you can add to regular gas.

http://store.summitracing.com/...%2D41

 

i run a methanol kit which injects from the ic piping near the throttle. it sprays right into the intake manifold like NOS. if your talking about me using full meth rather then regular gasoline, then no i'm still running pump gas with methanol injection.

 

That is somewhat different than running methanol as your primary fuel source. I think also that it would be really difficult maybe to get your car to heat up?? Doesnt methanol burn faster than gasoline and actually makes your engine run cooler?

I know that people that run methanol dont normally run intercoolers or dont have to.

 

methanol injection help fights the knock and timing pulled from the ecu. i'm asumming your running turbo or so. i don't run 100% methanol i run 50/50 which is 50 meth and 50 water.

koua

 

i have ran methanol injection on a civic, just as kauasupra does.. probably the same kit.. derekdevises???

but the methanol is NOT as corrosive as you people say, we have left it in the tank, pump and lines..... no problems, hell the thing has never been purged.

as for running on pure methanol...... hell yeah you can do it, just have to make sure you dont go too far from wherever it is you fill up.

 

Alright I know some people that run methanol on there 2 stroke quads. True it isnt a 4 stroke engine but it still works somewhat on the same principal and those guys from what I know have to clean out there fuel system with some gasoline after riding?? It will wash the oil away on your cylinders Im thinking or either break it down and you may get some scratches in there cause it doesnt lube as good on start up or something??

 

jdogg, you are right! i'm running dereks kit and i love it. meth and distilled water not tap water isn't corrosive. i've been running on this stuff for a long time already. methanol is very dry and it tends to wash off oil on the cylinder wall that's why you use lube to add on your methanol. jdogg, alot of my supra buddy are running 100% methanol, but i like using 50/50 to help fight the knocks and timing not to mention the cooling effect it gives when the methanol starts to spray.
derek is very smart, you have to give him that. the grand national guys have been running this stuff for years now, and we are just finding out about it.

 

Methanol will eat your motor, unless you have first hand experience I wouldn't say otherwise. This is assumed your running straight meth.

It will break down the barriers in the motor and you will most likely find it contaminating the oil with having gas in it very abundantly. It does to a point need to be flushed out but I have seen some people leave it till the next day.

Power will come on quicker, make more power, run much cooler then normally, typically the ratio is twice as much methanol as gas to run correct. I forget the correct air/fuel ratio but its somewhere between 4:1 to 8:1

 

http://derekdevises.com


this will answer your question.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kouasupra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdogg, you are right! i'm running dereks kit and i love it. meth and distilled water not tap water isn't corrosive. i've been running on this stuff for a long time already. methanol is very dry and it tends to wash off oil on the cylinder wall that's why you use lube to add on your methanol. jdogg, alot of my supra buddy are running 100% methanol, but i like using 50/50 to help fight the knocks and timing not to mention the cooling effect it gives when the methanol starts to spray.
derek is very smart, you have to give him that. the grand national guys have been running this stuff for years now, and we are just finding out about it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

unless they are using the methanol for extra fuel the difference in knock deterance and cooling going from 50% meth to 100% is nil... not worth it.. hell if you dont need the fuel as little as 30% meth will do just fine