hey sup guys!!! i dunno how many times this subject or if ever, this subject has been brought up but im too lazy to search...
but yeah, juz barely learnin about performance parts...
n-e-wayz, im considerin gettin a lighten flywheel for my engine (b20/type r head w/ b16 lsd tranny) but i dunno how light is too light or rather, wats the right weight for my set-up? other than wat i mention above, ma engine is pretty much stock...

im considerin fidanza (7.5 lbs) or act (8.8 lbs) flywheel but i cant decide!!
i also read sumwer that wen u hav lighten flywheel u lose torque and the rpm goes down fast to a point wer the engine is about to stall!!!

any comment, opinion, suggestion or recommendation is welcome!!! thanx..

 

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That will get you really far here.

 

those are too light dude. if you consider driving your car everyday in traffic i suggest you not put something that light in. have you ever driven a car with a flywheel that light. see what happens when you let off the gas without depressing the clutch in low speeds the car jerks like a ****** f#@ker low speed driving is a biatch. not enough weight to turn the crank. i suggest you get a stock flywheel and take it to the machine shop and have the shave off some weight. you can probably get it down to like 10 lbs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teckno_geek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> have you ever driven a car with a flywheel that light?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have, and both of those choices are perfectly "daily-drivable". My personal suggestion would be Clutchmasters/Fidanza. It's inexpensive, light, and has a replaceable friction surface.

BTW - I wouldn't want to be the front passenger in a Honda with a stock flywheel that's been machined down to 10 lbs.

 

i got a 7.5lbs fidanza flywheel on my b16 and feels great low and high engine speeds .... oh and act street/strip clutch and act Heavy duty pressure plate...

 

try parking lot driving. kind of hard to drive it in low gear low rpm's and let go of gas without the car jerkin hard on you. i didn't say its not drivable its just hard when you're trying to drive slow like in a parking lot and stuff and traffic.

 

the car aint gonna jerk if u dont jerk ur foot on the gas pedal, if your on full decel, its not gonna jerk period. if its jerking then theres something wrong with your car.

 

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You would have more of a jerking effect with a heavier flywheel via inertia. The lighter the flywheel, the easier it is on the clutch and clutch components. This sounds more like a bad motor mount situation, or a fueling problem where the injectors are cutting in and out causing the jerking effect. I cruise around parking lots in 2nd gear at 1500 rpms and have nothing like you're speaking of.

I'm using the fidanza 7.5lb unit and absolutely love it. Shifting is less harsh, and I've barely had to alter my driving habits, really only on starts up hill, just gotta clutch it a little more.

Dont believe a lot of the hype about the cons of lightened flywheels...its usually started and spread by those afraid of them.

 

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i agree 100%. there is nothing wrong with daily driving a light flywheel. i'd go for the 6.75lb comptech

 

&lt;-- Who uses a Toda flywheel

&lt;-- Who loves his Toda flywheel

 

Since this is in the ALL MOTOR category i am guessing you are going N/a. I dont think there is a flywheel to light for n/a, unless you go crazy low like past 7 lbs. I would suggest anything from 7 lb fidanza to a 8 lb fidanza, maybe 8.5. Its ok to have a flywheel that light. I have never been in any car with a light flywheel such as 8 lbs that jerks when releasing the gas. Good luck.

 

Just wanted to add something else in there. You cannot use A/C with a lightened flywheel that weighs less than 10 pounds or something like that. Somebody correct me on the weight please.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wanted to add something else in there. You cannot use A/C with a lightened flywheel that weighs less than 10 pounds or something like that. Somebody correct me on the weight please.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Joking? I've used A/C a couple times and it hasn't phased my 7.5lb wheel. Again, quit spreading misinformation.

Why are people afraid of flywheels?

 

i have a 9lb fadenzia and a ctr n1 crank pully, sucks getting stuck in traffic alot of jerkin and slippin the clutch so you dont get the jerking. When you put a light flywheel on you just have to relearn howto drive again lol, thats how i looked at it.

 

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Joking? I've used A/C a couple times and it hasn't phased my 7.5lb wheel. Again, quit spreading misinformation.

Why are people afraid of flywheels?</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL - If you weren't able to use A/C with a sub-10 lb. flywheel, my brother down in FL would probably have melted by now.

 

When you go from a stock b16a flywheel to an 8lb fidanza, how does the pull up through the gears feel? Were you dissapointed or were you happy with how the flywheel ran? Is there a huge difference or hardly noticeable?

 

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My civic revs like a bike thanks to my toda flywheel. Gotta shift fast, RPMs will drop faster too.

 

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My civic revs like a bike thanks to my toda flywheel. Gotta shift fast, RPMs will drop faster too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you buy a 8lb toda flywheel or an 8 lb fidanza the speed of the revs arnt gonna differ right? You have a b16 with an 8lb flywheel? If so, when you shift at 8k do you fall out of vtec, where does the revs start gaining again? Thanks

 

RPM's in each gear remain identical. The only time you might "fall out of VTEC" is if you shift so slowly that the revs drop substantially However, when you release the clutch, the momentum of the vehicle will bring the engine speed back up again, albeit with a serious lurch.

 

Thanks for the responce. My bro and a couple friend were worried about that. Good stuff.

 

Think of it as a lighter crank. Anyone complain about that? Nope. If your engine has less mass to move, your rotational inertia decreases, which increases the rate at which torque reaches the ground, and lone behold, you are faster. It doesn't blow up your A/C compressor, it doesn't melt pistons or make every shift point decrease by 3000 rpms...only downfall, if it is even a downfall, is that you cannot see the power increase on a chassis dyno, or engine dyno for that matter...its purely a butt dyno mod.

 

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and it's a very noticeable one.
the less **** you have flying around the better.

&lt;-- still trying to figure out the thing with the AC

 

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Joking? I've used A/C a couple times and it hasn't phased my 7.5lb wheel. Again, quit spreading misinformation.

Why are people afraid of flywheels?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yo seriously, it's just a lightened flywheel, you will spend all of like 1hr getting used to it, if you spend any longer or have all these problems with one, then frankly you suck at driving manual and should get an automatic.

 

yo check out this thread and like i said i told yal. it'll jerk on yal at low speeds. read what BauleyCivic has to say.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=847127

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=847127 </TD></TR></TABLE>

i have an 8lb ACT flywheel, ill let my own personal experience as to the driveability compared to what some random person on HT says..... its absolutely fine! (oh yea you notice hes the only 1 with any real negatives in that whole post)

i never had any difficulty "getting used to" this flywheel. i love mine it revs real quick and is for sure not to light.

oh and as far as changing shift points and all this crap people talk about (going through gears faster) it wont change your engines operation at all then the clutch pedal is out, its impossible. it does rev faster though and if your granny shifting it will drop out of your powerband. dont want this to happen? shift fast. dont have mad shiftin skills, power shift. problem solved.

oh and also if you think about it im sure there is a measureable change in power because there is less weight to move, therefore the engine will have less internal loss (having to overcome its own rotational weight to make power). the only problem is i dont think anyone has ever done a before and after dyno of JUST a flywheel...