So I'm looking into getting the SRR adjustable upper control arms and the SRR rear adjustable camber kit, and while I won't be serious, if ever, for awhile about competing in autocross, when/if the day comes, I'd like to not have to unmodify something just to legally fit in my class (CSP). Reading over the rules, there's something about allowing camber plates on Macpherson struts, but nothing about UCAs or the rear kits. Thoughts/opinions?

 

Only thing you can get away with right now is offset bushings on a double wishbone car. It seems like a lot of people are getting adequate negative camber by adjusting ride height though. Offset bushings are on the long list of "things to do" for my car.

 

Well, I'm actually looking to correct my camber in the positive direction, but I guess that's not really a legitimate excuse. Thanks for the info though

 

Yup, not legal for SP. There has been a bunch of people write to the SEB to get this changed, but no go. It does not look like it will any time soon either.

 

What would that bump me to then, STX? Or SM (*shudder*)?

 

SM if you're on R tires.

STS/STX if you still have street tires and everything else is within the rules.

 

You have to understand something, the rules for ST classes and not in line completely with the SP rules. In other words, You are allowed to do some things in ST, that you are not in SP, even though SP cars are allowed for mods than ST cars overall. This is one example. Some of these have been changed, the cross drilled/slotted brake rotor allowance and engine mount/inserts that are allowed now in SP that weren't before ST came along.

So, unless you have a set of R compound tires. You are much better off in STX. In CSP, the Type R while fun, is not competitive. Especially this season, CSP is going to be tougher. There will be a bunch of guys with some decently prepared cars running CSP this season in the DC area.

Edit: This of course is assuming you have not added a flywheel or something to bump you out of STX.

 

Interestingly enough, a flywheel was one of the things I was just thinking about adding, since I have to rebuild the motor soon. If I added that, would I be bumped to SM? And I will be on street tires.

 

Yeah. Flywheel, and anything but OEM clutches throw you in SM.

 

Flywheel and clutch are free in SP.

 

Dammit, this is horrendously aggravating. So I could be in CSP with my current goodies, minus the adjustable camber; or STX with the camber, but without the flywheel (and clutch I suppose, as I'm sure a Clutchmasters Stage 2 wouldn't qualify as OEM...); or SM with everything. If STX allows something like adjustable camber, why would they not allow a lightweight flywheel, especially since it seems like a fairly common item? Not questioning anyone's knowledge here, just sort of ranting.

 

Type R do great in STX, I would really suggest you hold off on the flywheel. Especially if you are going to be running only true street tires. It would be kind of useless to put yourself in a class you will be completely out gunned in. Besides, you can always add the stuff later if you want. It is better to save your money now and put it toward driving schools.

Just my opinion.

BTW, feel free to introduce yourself at one of the Fed Ex events. I am running the 1991 Black CRX in CSP.

Eric

 

Thanks for the advice Crosser. I hadn't even thought about putting it towards an HPDE or something, oddly enough (that's where my money is usually being saved for), and I will indeed go with that idea. I won't be able to get down to Fedex until the June 13th event, but I will make sure to stop by and say hello.

 

The evolution autocross schools are very good. Brian Garfield and the WDCR SCCA guys put on a pretty good local school now and then, not sure when they plan to do the next one.

As for HPDE, Car Guys events are known to be very good for instruction. They are usually a little more, but I am told it is worth it.

 

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This is one place the SCCA has really had trouble. The rules for Stock, STS/STX, xSP, and SM were all written independently. This has caused a few aggravating inconsistencies. I know it's not much consolation, but it drives all of us nuts.

Since STS and SM have stabilized (they were created about 3 years ago), the SCCA is trying to get the rules to "flow" from one class to the next, but as of yet, they aren't finished doing so.

 

I've considered checking out the Evolution schools, and I've heard very good things about them. Do you think it'd be worth it if I wasn't going to be getting competitive quite yet? As for HPDEs, I've been doing them with NASA last year, and a FATT through BSR now and then.

 

Evolution schools are autocross schools. While they will teach you car control, they focus ALOT on what will make you faster in autocross situations. If you are not going to race too often yet, I would look for some local or surrounding area sponsored schools. These are cheaper and will give you some good seat time. Other than that, I would suggest seat time, seat time, seat time....