OK i have a 2002 rsx and when i'm driving and all going about 50 mph or 45 or whatever and i get to a red light i push and hold in the clutch and put it in nuetral and brake and i keep the clutch held in. Sometimes i'll put it in gear when i almost or do come to a complete stop *still have the clutch in at the point* and i'll just put it in 1st and go reason i'm asking is bc my friend said that i'll mess up the clutch by having the clutch pushed in and he said to press the clutch then put it in neutral and then let go of the clutch and ride with it in neutral.... please tell me what to do bc i dont wan to screw up my clutch or my tranny thanks and i'm sorry if u dont understand it lol i tried to explain it the best i could

 

You can either just put it on neutral and use brake or
Downshift, + Revmatch.

 

so i press the clutch in put it in neutral then let the clutch go and then brake? or press and hold the clutch and put it in neutral and keep the clutch held in?

 

in britain, we call that riding the clutch bolt, it doesnt erally hurt your clutch, but the bolt thats holding those together, it will wear it down, not really a great thing cuz that canlead tio the destruction of your clutch,but itll take a while, just hold neutral until you shift into first, dont hold the clutch for hours!

 

Why don't you use engine braking? I think it helps with the stopping power a lot more than just dropping it into neutral at 50mph and pressing the brakes. To do this, just start easily pressing the brakes, then when you get to a lower speed, at or about 2 grand RPM is where I do it, downshift from your current gear to the previous one. Now people do this a whole bunch of different ways, some people like to downshift more than once when braking. Some downshift two gears rather than one. If I'm cruising at 50mph, I'm usually at 5th gear. I'll slow down a bit by pressing on the brakes (no clutch), then when i get down to about 40mph or so, I'll downshift to 4th gear. Sometimes, I'll just wait till I'm at 30mph or so, then downshift to third gear skipping 4th. After downshifting, I just rev match by giving the car some gas while the clutch is still pressed in from the downshift. After that, I just let go of the clutch, start braking (only brake pedal), then when I get to about 1K RPM, I put it in neutral, let go of the clutch, and just coast to a complete stop. And I never hold down the clutch when I'm stopped. I'll just put it in neutral and press no pedals, or sometimes the brake pedal if I'm on a hill or an incline. Hope this helps

 

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Downshift, + Revmatch.
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Or burn gas like an idiot. You down need it to slow down at the light, neutral+brake.

 

There is nothing wrong with rev matching. if you just leave it in neutral and brake it wears out your rotors and pads really fast without leaving it in gear. I recommend just downshifting to 3rd. not second.

 

technically.... your foot shouldn't be on the clutch unless your shifting or coming out of a stop....

 

Time for a DIY: Driving Stick

 

soo tell me the right way to "shift" when i'm coming to a complete stop bc right now all i do is push the clutch in put it in neutral and let go fo the clutch and hit the brake

 

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Try my method. If you continue to use the same method you're using, you'll wear out your brake rotors and pads really fast.

 

On a slightly different note, that is one impressive run-on sentence.

 

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not if you slow down easy..
if you are slowing down from too short of a distance you'll have to use more braking and wear out your rotors/pads faster.

technically, the way to stop from say 40mph in the easiest way with the least stress on your car is as follows:

Condition: Lets say your car is in 4th gear at about 45 mph.

-slowly take your foot off the gas, the car's RPM's will go down and it will hesitate a little. (it will hesitate harshly if you juss RUSH your foot off the gas)

- when your car gets down to 2000 rpm or less, slowly push in the clutch, move shifter into neutral, and let clutch out.

- easily press the brake and slowly come to a stop.

- green light, move on normally.


Brakes wear all the time, pads, rotors. It's normal wear and tear. You can always replace them.

If you downshift (and maybe revmatch too) and use your engine compression to slow the car down, even though it allows you to use less braking, it wears your engine and transmission and puts unnecesary stress on them.

Would you rather put wear and tear on your brakes over time or on your engine/transmission?

Now you might say, that you have more control over the car when you're a gear..

You don't need that much control when coming to a slow, normal stop on a street. And if there is some sudden emergency (maybe a dog runs on the road), given that you haven't been stopping too suddenly, it isn't that hard to put your car in gear and maneuver.

The only place I usually keep my car in gear and downshift in normal driving is when i'm on the canyons, or some hilly curvy road (downhill/uphill). These are really the only places it would be safer to use your gears.

 

I just bought my rsx-s last month and it is my first stick shift.

Like 5 -30 times I let go of the clutch with not enough gas shutting the car off!

My friend who has driven a stick shift for about 13 years taught me about rev matching. It took me a while to understand the concept but I got it after about a week or so.

I think the members are right about depleting the brakes (when neutral + braking) because you don't feel any DOWN FORCE as you would feel in a higher gear.

So take your car on an empty road at night and try the rev matching way.

My question is does it still waste the same amount of brake? Because when I shift from 6-5-4-3-2... it feels like the force is coming from the brakes, I don't know.

Bad idea is... don't try to rev match if you're a beginner and a car in front of you is close !

-Vouth

 

when you push in the clutch pedal, push it <u>quickly </u> and all the way to the floor. That will eliminate a little bit of the slipping that will wear out the clutch faster.

 

Its cheaper to replace the pads than the clutch... my dad's been telling me this for years... Clutch in, shift to nuetral, apply brake... I only use the engine to slow me down, when I REALLY have to stop... but I guess that's what my brembo's are for now...