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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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Planing on going with the Brembo Grand Turismo Brake Kit 12.9" ,what off set rim would i need to fit those brakes ? i have 18" rims already so i'am ok with height but clearance wise and did anyone install brembo's in there accord's ? or preludes if anyone knows any feed back please post up ( i did a search nothing ) Thanx
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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No oNe did any brake upgrades on accords ?
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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i was considering this brake conversion. If you e-mail brembo, they will send you the schematics on the brake kit.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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First off, i tried to do a search for the same thing. Doesn't seem like too many people are upgrading their brakes on accords. However, I said screw it and did it. I have a 94 accord ex with the 12.9 brembo brakes on them. Let me tell you it took me 4 months no exageration to find wheels to fit them. It's not a matter of wheel size as long as you have 17" or better. It's the caliper clearance that's the pain in the ***. I talked with Brembo for weeks on in, i have the templates and everything. Called every major wheel manufacter, AXIS, Volk(Mackin Industries), Racing Hart, Work, Roja, HRE, etc. Still it's a bitch to find a wheel that will clear the caliper especially in 4x4.5 bolt pattern. Even to custom make the wheel some companies couldn't even do that. HRE was $4300 to custom make 18" I have 17" customed sized and colered roja lightweight forged wheels. Besides all the headaches these brakes are AMAZIN' Stops on a dime.

To NYC showoff, if you want to see the car with the brakes and wheels I will be at RPM NYC on Sat... It's in Queens village off of Jamaica ave 218st. go to there website RPM NYC.com for their exact address. Good luck
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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i have volk gtps in 18x8 w/ 42 offset. I figured things out, and believe they should fit with this wheel
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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thanks guys i know where RPM is ill maybe stop buy mid-afternoon..so what is that off set that you have ..i seen these wheels that i like they have an +40 offset would that clear the caliper ? or go with AEM brakes ? or would i have same problem ?

and why dont honda-tech fix there e-mail notification i dont get any email's about if anyone replyed
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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To tell you the truth, it doesn't really matter on the offset, I talked to Volk which is Macken Industries and they told me it's a matter of "pad" which in this case you would need a high pad wheel.(They actually offer certain high pad wheels for brake kits like this but not for the accord, it's geared toward 350Z, supra, Skyline, etc.) It's really hard to explain in words but i test fitted about 60 wheels on my car ranging from offset around 38 to 50 and it still doesn't make a difference. Velox does have a line of wheels specifically for the Brembo kit but i haven't heard too much about Velox so i don't know their quality. If you care about the performance, i can get you a set of roja 17" in bronze, you can always repaint them if you want for about $1100 the wheels are forged and weigh about 14.8pds. Guaranteed to Fit with the Brembo kit. Let me know, email me if you're interested. PMark888@aol.com
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Also i forgot to answer your questions...+40 offset i don't believe will fit. But i would actually have to see the wheel. Don't bother with the AEM kit, everybody i've talked to even people who have it says that it's not that good. Stick with Brembo, Alcon, AP Racing, Stop-Tech, etc.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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how do you know if a wheel is a high pad or not? ive heard this term numerous times.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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the aem kit is just fine as a starter point, and the aem calipers if you go ***** out will hang with brembos any day
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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The easiest way to explain High pad would be at the wheel where it's mounted; the center area is larger meaning it's pushed out further which would give you more clearance for the spoke to caliper ratio. However, if you're particular about a certain rim you could always just use a spacer. But most people tell me it's not that safe if you plan on racing the car.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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i dont know spacers trying to avoid them safe reasons gotta look into it ..cuz my hub on one side is not mounted even so it pushes my calpier back and forth and it dont grab like it has to ..i changed my master cyl. bleeded couple of times brakes are good and adjusted maybe fix the hub and install new brakes cheaper i dunno
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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jesus christ those are some $$$ brakes.
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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but worth it, if thats what you need
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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other accord pics with brembo's or any other brake kit ? out there
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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guess no other accord have big brakes ..but aint there alot of accord/h22a turbo how do they stop ? lol :/
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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is this sufficient for a pic? only catch is i'm a 4th gen, not 5th.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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thats very helpful..i know what rim is that but what offset do you have or nay problems did you have ? installing it or how they work ? etc as much info as you could give me to help me on my car ..cuz my curent brakes are killing me if not fixed could lead to serious accident so need alot info and feeback on them brakes
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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well, after spending an insane amount of money into my brakes, here is what i have learned about rims:

1) offset plays very little into clearing high-performance calipers.
2) spoke and rim design is actually what is most important.

my original set of rims (MSW type55c 17x7.5 offset +40) didn't clear the caliper. so i had to ride along with 3-mm spacers for 4 months as I ordered and waited for my rims. i ordered Volk GTP's (17x7 offset +35) but the wheel guy thought he knew better and said the +37 would clear. 4 months later and my rims came in, they did not clear. out of embarassment from him (and frustration from me) i settled for a set of bronze Black Racing Pro N1 17x7.5 offset +45 which <u>cleared</u> without spacers.

8 months later, my Pro N1's were stolen so I got these Volk TE-37's (17x7.5 +40 offset) which also clear without spacers.

unfortunately, NOBODY knows exactly which rims will and won't clear. it's more of a trial-n-error. just because a rim comes in a lower offset doesn't mean it will clear. for low offset rims, what usually happens is that the manufacturer just moves the rim outward (which gives the rim a deep-dish/big lip appearance) but the spokes are the same so the wheel itself still won't clear the big calipers.
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 04:11 AM
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thanks alot for clearing it up..i found a rim(18x7) with an +40 offset and spoke design is outwerds looks like will fit ..but like you said gotta try it ..you think that could work ?
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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you got a picture of the rim?

it might fit, but I have a feeling it won't. here's why:



so unless the spokes have an insane amount of bowing outwards, i doubt the 7" +40 offset rim will clear.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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gonna look into it more that u posting that graph..ill email you the pic and tell me what u think of the picture


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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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ah, the joy of being labeled as a "trial user", doesn't give me access to reply to your instant message. make me type my extended response for nothing.

anyway... those TSW rims you picked @ 18x7 +40 offset will NOT clear the brembo calipers for two reasons:

1) the spokes are too thick and they do not bow-out enough.

say assuming they come in offset of +32 or lower, then you might have a chance of clearing. but you then encounter problem #2,

2) the valve stem. notice on the pic, the valvestem points straight up. well, that is going to hit the caliper everything it rotates.

so that rim you picked will only work if you pick a lower offset and you get a different valve stem. personally, i'd stay away from TSW rims. i've had a friend bent 4 rims before he ditched them. they're nicknamed: "totally soft rims" for good reasons.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by usc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ah, the joy of being labeled as a "trial user", doesn't give me access to reply to your instant message. make me type my extended response for nothing.

anyway... those TSW rims you picked @ 18x7 +40 offset will NOT clear the brembo calipers for two reasons:

1) the spokes are too thick and they do not bow-out enough.

say assuming they come in offset of +32 or lower, then you might have a chance of clearing. but you then encounter problem #2,

2) the valve stem. notice on the pic, the valvestem points straight up. well, that is going to hit the caliper everything it rotates.

so that rim you picked will only work if you pick a lower offset and you get a different valve stem. personally, i'd stay away from TSW rims. i've had a friend bent 4 rims before he ditched them. they're nicknamed: "totally soft rims" for good reasons.</TD></TR></TABLE>\


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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 04:05 AM
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usc: you think they will fit my 94 accord with 18x8 volk gtp's in 42 offset?
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