I'm thinking about getting a Jackssonracing for the ITR..and the question is, is it worth it?
Jackson says that you get around 260hp with 10-10 psi, anybody that have this?
Is it possible to run middle 12's with this setup? What endspeed do you get at 402m? Can you still use the car as a daily driver?
I currently run low 14's with N/A stock with 4-1 JDM DC.

/ps sorry about the leak of english

 

None.
Supercharge is for big engine and it's suposed to be alot of tourqe instead of hp.
if you want FI i would go turbo .
on 4 bangers superchagers wont work as good as turbo
and ITR motor is hard to make tourqe

 

talk a guy named RBoosted...he runs high 12's on a JRSC ITR

 

There are a number of JRSC ITRs around here. Personally, roots type sc just doesn't do it for me. Unless you want something to just slap on and never look at again.. but I doubt that's the case. You MIGHT be able to hit mid 12s with a jrsc but you'd need a lot more done than say a turbo setup..

Running a mid 12 second turbo can still be a daily driver. You can have boost settings for street/track driving, etc. Ask all kinds of questions and you'll get answers.. most of the time.

 

Yeah I don't wanna go turbo...once you go turbo...you just need more boost and after that you have blown the engine..you understand that it was just to much....

So these guys that runt JRSC with say 10-11 Psi, do they run with stock engine, just bigger injectors, fuelpump + Hondata + clutch? Or do they change the headgasket to something thicker or lower the compration even more?
I don't wanna blow a lovely b18c6 engine

 

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So these guys that runt JRSC with say 10-11 Psi, do they run with stock engine, just bigger injectors, fuelpump + Hondata + clutch? Or do they change the headgasket to something thicker or lower the compration even more?
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I am pretty sure that most have internals as well as pulleys, fuel management etc....I understand exactly what your saying about turbo, but thats not so much the case. As long as your are tuned properly you can make great power without having to worry about blowing it up. Its just that most learn from experience the first-time around ...and thats why you hear the negative stories im sure. Do a search and you will find a ton of info. Honda-Tech will be the best place that you can find the info your looking for and i would recommend asking around in the forced induction forum as well. They really know their **** in there.

 

Actually I would ask these questions in the FI forum too, as there are more turbo and SC gyus in there, and of course you should use the search function too, lots of good info to be found in the archives if you take the time to weed through it.

 

He didn't ask if he should go turbo, he asked for some results of the JRSC...I hate when everyone says "go turbo, go turbo".

You don't need to build your engine up to run the 8 psi pulley, or even the 10. Just be sure to get it TUNED PROPERLY. If you get it TUNED PROPERLY, the engine will last a long time.

With the 8 psi pulley, you'll be faster than 95% of the cars on the road...and it will be more power than the average driver will ever need.

 

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Yes, if you like the feeling of additional torque and will be happy with no more than 260-270whp. If you want more power than that, go turbo.

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Yes (Rboosted, Spunkster). I'm at 230whp with 6.5psi.

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Yes, low 12's.

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Yes

 

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Jackson says that you get around 260hp with 10-10 psi, anybody that have this?
Is it possible to run middle 12's with this setup? What endspeed do you get at 402m? Can you still use the car as a daily driver?
I currently run low 14's with N/A stock with 4-1 JDM DC.

/ps sorry about the leak of english

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i don't think its worth it.. thats because.... go turbo yo! not that you can't make hp with a blower, just so much more potential with turdblow, and you never know how much hp you will want to have once you got everything running.

 

Can someone tell the turbo kids to go play in the sandbox, and let the adults talk.


I've known of a few jrsc ITR's and they are fast. Throttle response is immediate, low end torque is there, and regardless of what the "trubo mafia" says, 10psi of boost in a high CR honda motor is more than enough for the average daily driver. Tuned at 235whp (and with traction) your car should be deep into the 13's, and these are both realistic numbers.

With that said, turbo has it's place too.
They're just 2 different methods of achieving the same thing, speed.


FYI, my GSR at 5.5psi was hitting 14 @ 94mph.
Later at 9psi, I g-tech'd a 13.5
I haven't had the chance to take it to the track this year.

 

no need to get all upset.. if you driven my original turbo setup you would think again about supercharger.. properly sized turbo will respond just as fast, and have torque as early as needed.. and guess what, throttle response was immediate. and people with smaller turbos on their itr have even better results as far as low end goes and faster spool. with all that said, low end won't do much for 1/4 mile. and 230whp is not fast.

 

I used to be boosted until it was taken from me. 11psi on stock internals making 265hp and 185 tq was great.

 

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FYI, my GSR at 5.5psi was hitting 14 @ 94mph.
Later at 9psi, I g-tech'd a 13.5
I haven't had the chance to take it to the track this year.
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I'm sorry but if you are trying to convince him to supercharge, these aren't numbers I would be boasting. I've seen Hytech/SMSP setups going mid 13s...if you're going mid 13s on 9 psi, you are either having traction problems or you can't drive.

 

Sounds great!

How many miles have you driven with this setup?

Any troubles with the compressor itself?

So if I go with stock engine and compration and say 6-7 psi it's not problems?

And Turboboys...I'm not looking for building a dragcar. I'm looking for just little bit more hp that I can handle on the tracks, street, to work exc

 

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I'm sorry but if you are trying to convince him to supercharge, these aren't numbers I would be boasting. I've seen Hytech/SMSP setups going mid 13s...if you're going mid 13s on 9 psi, you are either having traction problems or you can't drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is on a car that regularly placed in the top 15% of every autoX that it's attended, and absolutely kills anything turbo on the local streets. This car makes canyon roads it's bitch, and is a blast to drive. FYI, I only run on street tires, and race cars, not clocks. The times above are merely an idea as to how my car would fare on the 1320.

Big turbos are great for dyno queens and track stars, but I have very few problems with anything from boosted 4 cylinders to NA V8's with my jrsc.

Thank you, and come again.


Oh yeah, before I forget, I'm very familiar with turbo cars.
I have a 14 second wagon, carseat and all.
And anyone who tells you that a car that pulls less than 14 seconds in the 1/4 is either full of ****, or has been watching way too much F&TF.

 

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No problems at all as long as you're prepared to run the good gas, and spend some money on tuning.

You'll love the jrsc on your highways.
I begged for my jrsc car when I was in Germany, but was stuck driving a 1.3L Opel.

 

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This is on a car that regularly placed in the top 15% of every autoX that it's attended, and absolutely kills anything turbo on the local streets. This car makes canyon roads it's bitch, and is a blast to drive. FYI, I only run on street tires, and race cars, not clocks. The times above are merely an idea as to how my car would fare on the 1320.

Big turbos are great for dyno queens and track stars, but I have very few problems with anything from boosted 4 cylinders to NA V8's with my jrsc.

Thank you, and come again.


Oh yeah, before I forget, I'm very familiar with turbo cars.
I have a 14 second wagon, carseat and all.
And anyone who tells you that a car that pulls less than 14 seconds in the 1/4 is either full of ****, or has been watching way too much F&TF.

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I'm on your side man. I would rather have a JRSC than a turbo...I'm just saying that those times aren't all that great.

With the 10 psi pulley you'll be pushing more horsepower than you'll ever need in our cars....as already mentioned.

 

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I beg to differ, on 2 accounts.

1) there's never enough power, especially if you're looking for top speed
2) The MAJOR shortcoming of the JRSC is the lack of means by which to cool the compressed air before introduction to the combustion chamber (other than direct port NOS).

 

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I'm on your side man. I would rather have a JRSC than a turbo...I'm just saying that those times aren't all that great.

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Sorry Justin, I tend to jump the gun when I hear people talk bad about the jrsc, as it really is a great form of boost for our cars.

With that said, even 9psi on my 1.6L setup right now is more than enough power to break traction in the first 3 gears, and that's at 3300rpm, when VTEC kicks in. On street tires, it's virtually pointless to have anymore power, unless you want bragging rights, as FWD traction is already limited.

As for my times, the car will be tracked soon with the 1.6L setup, then again when my 1.9L is done. Once that is complete, I'll be selling the jrsc and going with a nice BB T28.

As zygspeed said, the only problem with the jrsc is its lack of cooling. I'm tired of dumping fuel into the cylinders, or running water injection to counter the 180+ degree intake temps.

 

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1) there's never enough power, especially if you're looking for top speed
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Top speed is limited more by gearing and not power....

 

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Hence my putting a Quaife in a GSR box for my turbo setup.
Was looking for 165-170+ mph range at 8750-9K rpm.

 

Just curious, where do you go to go that fast?

 

I like the idea of a roots blower on a B series motor. Gives it some grunt down low. Obviously if your goal is 300+whp there are better ways.

 

i like my jrsc civic gsr runs like a champ pull hard

hondata tuned 217 154

still young just a turn 19 year old
may be later ill go bigger and better for now it just a roller coaster at idle