what motor to swap in a teg?
whats a good motor to swap into a teg? cuz my friend is gona start out with just a frame/shell and hes wondering if he should go with th etype R engine or something else.. would an accord engine work ?
An H22A would probably be your best bet, due to their comparitively low prices and high power output. I'm actually trying to find an H22A7 from an Accord Type R to build (just for the hell of it).
What is he trying to do with the car. The H22 (arguably) throws off the balance of handling that the integra posses due to it's heavier weight. This leads to MORE overstear if you are going to track the car. If you are looking for off the line, strip style power, the H22 is a great application if done properly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dougw101 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The H22 (arguably) throws off the balance of handling that the integra posses due to it's heavier weight. This leads to MORE overstear if you are going to track the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's nothing that a few suspension component upgrades won't correct.
But I agree, this decision should be heavily influenced by the drivers goals for the car.
It's nothing that a few suspension component upgrades won't correct.
But I agree, this decision should be heavily influenced by the drivers goals for the car.
The H22 is only like 45Lbs heavier then the B series. a turbo kit weighs that much and I dont ever hear about turbo tegs having any handling problems
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Toda Built »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The H22 is only like 45Lbs heavier then the B series. a turbo kit weighs that much and I dont ever hear about turbo tegs having any handling problems</TD></TR></TABLE>thank you, someone who actually knows that H22's are not that much heavier than b series....Id say h22!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xplanetearth420x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would go with the h22 you could go with a k20 but there is only a limited amount of stuff out for those engine right now sense they a farely new</TD></TR></TABLE>
and the fact that its twice as much just for engine alone
and the fact that its twice as much just for engine alone
well from what i hear, he wants it to be 'fast and be able to rape porsches' lol .. but im assuming hes gon awant handling too and ****. I think the H22=2 owuld be a good way to go to, seeing as how i myself have a prelude, its a good engine
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thaiphob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not go with a K20a2?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that would be hawt
that would be hawt
well i already now he doesnt know to much about engines sense he is acually asking this question there is no way you will have enough money to do a k20 engine swap unless your rich!your going to go with a h22 or stay with ur stock motor
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dougw101 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is he trying to do with the car. The H22 (arguably) throws off the balance of handling that the integra posses due to it's heavier weight. This leads to MORE overstear if you are going to track the car. If you are looking for off the line, strip style power, the H22 is a great application if done properly. </TD></TR></TABLE>
STFU we all know that bullshit. my b18 turbo weighed in more than a H22 so your gonan tell people not to go turbo now too?
STFU we all know that bullshit. my b18 turbo weighed in more than a H22 so your gonan tell people not to go turbo now too?
if you want you could get the H22 , slightly heavier but you would already be lighter than other tegs because your just starting with your shell.. the guys with regular tegs go through a lot of stripping to shed lb's off their teg. As stated before you could expierence some over steer but im sure you can live with it if you do things the way they shuold be with the h22 in a teg.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by es_squared »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well from what i hear, he wants it to be 'fast and be able to rape porsches' lol .. </TD></TR></TABLE>
everything has its price, if your friend wants to be "fast and rape porsches", get your check book out, its going to cost you one way or another, i honestly dont think h22's get as much respect as they deserve. its relatively cheap to get the motor, but getting the motor in the car is going to cost another few hundred for the mounts, axles and whatever other misc. parts you might be needing, but while you have the motor sitting there i'd say build it, sleeve it, boost it. oh and dont forget to get a killer p&p job. if you cant afford a wild p&p (which i dont see happening if you were to have the money to get a h22 and all install hardware, build, sleeve, and boost it..) the minimum you're going to want to do as far as port work is portmatch the head.. the h22's intake ports are wimpy compared to the huge exhaust ports that it has, so proper head flow along with proper compression/boost is a must for making power out of a deuce deuce. but anyways, a properly built FI H22a set up is capable of putting down some serious hp (400-700hp depending on how much of you want to put yourself in debt) with proper tuning (and hondata). its not over though, you're going to want to get a roll cage put in that shell if you're going to have that kind of power just to have some sort of a safety net.
or you could do a relatively similar set up on a b18a/b or b20 if you dont want to go through all the temper tantrums that h22's are sometimes known for, tuning should also be a little simpler.
or if you're not stacking all the money in the world.. get a b18a/b or b20, build it and tune it for nos and run whatever shot you can afford to build and tune for properly. the beauty of nos is that you choose when you want the power and when you want to just cruise around.
and of course the right suspension and wheel/tire package and beefing up the transmission are essential to taking any motor's power and putting it down to the ground in the most efficient manner.
on the ls and b20 engines theres the option of going frankenstein on them as well but that can start costing you just as much as the built and boosted h22..
just my opinion, hope the information helps
or you could do a relatively similar set up on a b18a/b or b20 if you dont want to go through all the temper tantrums that h22's are sometimes known for, tuning should also be a little simpler.
or if you're not stacking all the money in the world.. get a b18a/b or b20, build it and tune it for nos and run whatever shot you can afford to build and tune for properly. the beauty of nos is that you choose when you want the power and when you want to just cruise around.
and of course the right suspension and wheel/tire package and beefing up the transmission are essential to taking any motor's power and putting it down to the ground in the most efficient manner.
on the ls and b20 engines theres the option of going frankenstein on them as well but that can start costing you just as much as the built and boosted h22..
just my opinion, hope the information helps
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