I'm somehwhat new to the whole racing scene. I'm not a total noob, but there are tons (and i mean a ton) of people who know more than me. I was wondering that since this is my first real car i'm gonna mod (97 Lude base) should I try to turbo a newer engine a little later on or go N/A. I think turbo would be fun, but tuning it and messing with the turbo would mess me up, and N/A seems to be a good choice for most noob-types. Just wanted to see if you guys had an opinion about this. Thanx for your input, sorry about the long post.

 

N/A is the expensive route to go, turbo is the cheaper, best bang for the buck route to go. There's always nitrous also. nitrous is pretty much the easiest, but hassle with refilling the bottle... i suggest nitrous for you.

 

A real NA setup needs just as much tuning as a turbo setup.

 

I would do nitrous, but I've heard a ton of horror stories and seen way too many videos of cars gettin wasted (blowing up) with nitrous. N/A seems the safest, but I may just have to do some research about the turbo and VTEC overlap.

 

Whut do you mean by real N/A setup?

 

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Bottom end and head work, higher compression pistons, cams, programmable engine management. Just putting on bolt ons, IMO, is not serious NA. But that is just my arrogant opinion

 

as long as you're careful, nitrous is safe. doing a 400 shot on a stock motor would be considered unsafe

 

True, I guess I should just do bolt-ons for now and save all the complicated stuff for when I have some small idea of what I want.

 

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Now that's a good idea.

 

Go turbo without a doubt. If you don't know a whole lot, you can just get a bolt on turbo kit. There are plenty of compaines that make turbo kits for the Prelude (Revhard, Greddy, Drag). Just buy it, bolt it on, and you're good to go. Then later down the road if you get more into it, you can build it up more and just make more power.

 

That sounds like a good idea also. Most of this stuff won't be done for a while ne ways, I was just trying to get a feel of what to do. The turbo app. sounds doable, but I may go N/A until I get used to more power. Thanks for the help guys. BTW, nice lude x.
This was my last post for this 24 hour period (damn Trial User stuff)

 

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and your good to go into the shop with a blow motor due to ur rings not handling boost. just because its a bolt on kit doesn't mean its that easy. bolt ons...waste of time if you plan on going turbo cuz you woudl have to remove the I/H/and sometimes Exhaust. just drive the car as it is, see what you want for a while how youw ell you can feel the car than take the next step with mods.

 

you're not really good to go... you really should bring it to the dyno to have it tuned even if it is a kit.

 

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and your good to go into the shop with a blow motor due to ur rings not handling boost. just because its a bolt on kit doesn't mean its that easy. bolt ons...waste of time if you plan on going turbo cuz you woudl have to remove the I/H/and sometimes Exhaust. just drive the car as it is, see what you want for a while how youw ell you can feel the car than take the next step with mods.</TD></TR></TABLE>

As far as the Greddy kit, it is made to be used on a 100% stock motor, exactly like I'm doing with no problems. Then, if he wants more power later, he can get some others mods and turn up the boost.

 

h22 rings dont take in that much stress. how long have you been driving with stock internals wiht your utrbo kit?

 

JR Supercharger

 

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The Greddy kit doesn't provide any means of retarding timing for boost. The 5th gen kit needs it. I've seen a 5th gen with the Greddy kit detonate around 5k rpm on a dyno, right where the stock ecu advances timing for vtec.

 

what ever you decide on doing, i would suggest keeping a small fire extinguisher (at least) just in case of fires and also upgrade your brakes . especially if you plan on doing mods that will increase your speed. what good is all that speed if you are unable to stop when you need to. it could save your _ _ _

 

nice lude... xPreludex

any suggestions on greddy turbo for prelude? i am planning to get turbo wit mine. can't decide which one to get revhard, greddy, or custom turbo. anything helps...

btw, i saw this quote on some site, "also i call greddy about 6months ago and they said not to put that turbo kit on an auto H22a 6-7 psi is like shooting NO2 all the time after a certain rpm. eventually that tranny is going to give out". any comments to that?

 

That deals with stock internals of an H22. If you build the bottom end to handle the boost and upgrade other components, you'll be able to run like 11 psi. If you wanna go all out, it'll handle upwards of 30 psi.

 

tranny has nothing to do with your internals buddy.