I've never had a problem with ordering on Honda-tech :knock on wood: but if you have the persons name and address couldn't you call the local police department? And when you send your money order or what have you make someone sign for the money?

 

Good luck with that. I did that 2 weeks ago and I haven't heard a thing back. I have also gone through PayPal, EBay and also the FBI but no one has gotten back to me about some schmoe in North Carolina. I wish I had vigilante justice though!

 

Are there any police officers out there that may have a professional opinion about this?

 

i went through the same thing as well. police cant really do any thing about it because basically its your word against there's now if it was a really known scammer like Jason fama then im sure something could be done about it.

 

you have your emails, conversations, check stubs, or paperwork with a money order. Basicly its robbery.

 

if the sale of goods greater than $500 then u should sign a contract so it can be a legal and enforceble by law. But of course we never bothered.
And if the sale of goods under $500 and if you have all the copies of emails, documents prove that there was an offer, acceptance then it can be enforceble by law. But of course u have to file a complaint against him in order to recover your fund.
But then you have to consider all the fees (i.e. court fees, attorney's fees, etc.) and if it's worth to go to court then go ahead..file a complaint.
And even then, it's still depend on the judge's decision.

I got these stuff from one of my business law classes. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.

 

It maybe worth it. I know there are verbal contracts but this can be the same way. You have proof through email of an agreement and what the terms are of the deal. By sending money and agreeing to ship you are in terms making a contract. Maybe you could ask your prof. about that. I'm not into law i'm an engineer

 

If you are persistent and determined to get your money back, you can do it. There are laws and people cant get away with this kind of stuff. I was scammed 650 dollars before from a guy in rhode island. It took me over 6 months to get my cash back but i did get it back

 

I'm hoping for any kind of success in my situation. Joseph Dickerson (possibly the infamous Eric Dickerson) got me, but hopefully the law will catch up to him and put him away.

 

i got scammed $900 over 2 years ago. Still nothing after I filed all sorts of paper and showed emails, mo stubs and all. Even the postal office knew of this guy but did not do anything. I called the police and they direct me to this person and that person direct me to another...on and on for 1.5 years. I was like forget it.....I'm never getting my money.

 

^^Cops Never Help, I remember when my house in lilburn ga was robbed during the day. Called right when I Got home. What did they do? Notta damn thing!!

 

damn....thats where i live too

 

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But in that case you didn't know who did it or where they lived. If you have the guys address, name, telephone number, and other information they should be able to track down the person.

 

Police are worthless!!

They dont care Two Sh*ts about stuff that really matters !
They only care about writing BS traffic tickects!

 

police aren't going to catch any scammers, k-a-r-m-a is though..

 

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They only care about writing BS traffic tickects!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats very true!

 

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yah KARMA is a bitch aint it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gunslinger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Police are worthless!!

They dont care Two Sh*ts about stuff that really matters !
They only care about writing BS traffic tickects!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats because traffic tickets pay the bills...catching criminals is a BONUS!

 

FBI

 

Has anyone ever had a sucess story with the police? Do you know of any police officers that would be able to answer this question or even better a lawyer.

 

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nope, sometimes the best thing to do is take it in ur own hands cause the cops wont do anything about it

 

you can call the police on a scammer...it's called Theft, not Robbery...

The problem with this is the fact that it is usually across state lines and if any part of the transaction involved mailing payment, it becomes mail fraud.

Get your Postal Inspector or Postmaster involved and it becomes a federal issue.

There really isn't much that a local officer can do besides document what you tell them in a report that can be used by the postmaster to continue the investigation. A detective may or may not get involved in the local end of it depending on the value of the items or even the items in question.

It becomes a federal issue and there's more red tape w/ that than you could ever imagine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jason &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can call the police on a scammer...it's called Theft, not Robbery...

The problem with this is the fact that it is usually across state lines and if any part of the transaction involved mailing payment, it becomes mail fraud.

Get your Postal Inspector or Postmaster involved and it becomes a federal issue.

There really isn't much that a local officer can do besides document what you tell them in a report that can be used by the postmaster to continue the investigation. A detective may or may not get involved in the local end of it depending on the value of the items or even the items in question.

It becomes a federal issue and there's more red tape w/ that than you could ever imagine.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Doesnt work! Did this before and its been atleast 2yrs and still havent gotten my $900+ back. The postal inspectors now of this individual but still does nothing. When I called and mentioned postal fraud they immediately mentioned his name...I $HIT YOU NOT!......That's all fine and dandy but, no money yet.

 

I just made my first purchase on Honda-tech classifieds. It was a mere $40 used EG radiator. I am pretty excited to see how the transaction goes through. I paid through paypal today, looking forward to getting a tracking number from the seller. I definitely will be more than happy to vouch for him when I get the radiator.

On the concept of scamming. It seems that it happens all too often. Judging from other posts, it definitely gives legitimate sellers a tough time selling their items because of the cloud of scamming hanging over the transactions. It would be almost impossible to demand receipt of items before payment is made, as the scam could then be reversed. Is the monetary savings worth the risk?

I wonder what would happen if a scamee took matters into his own hands. Since there's not much law enforcement can do. Say a person was scammed for $1000 on a part/engine. He then decides to track down the scammer. He then metes out a severe beating to the scammer. Take some pictures, post it here on Honda-tech. Assault and battery, a C or B felony, probation if its a first offence. Problem solved, scammer will probably not scam again. Future scammers will be deterred somewhat.

Yes, I watch too much tv. But if someone took $1000 of my hard-earned money. I couldn't say for sure I wouldn't do something like that.

Just my two cents. I have no flame suit. I'm off the soapbox. Next...

 

Ok guys i asked a local law enforcement officer in my city about this topic, And i got a few details. Basically when someone calls in and states they have been scammed or robbed, lost something to theft it all starts with paperwork. What basically is done that all the serial numbers, descritpions and all are entered in NCIC(national crime investigation computer). Basically what happens is that if any law enforcement comes across the stolen items they are ran thru the same computer if there is a match then that original agency is contacted. Charges get pressed against the individual and items are returned. To be honest with you unless these items come up for sale somewhere that a person can run the serial numbers there is next to no chance for items to be recovered. As far as email scams and such yes you should go ahead and notify police, post office and such. The only thing u have left to do is to get a lawyer and sue. In court they will use the reports and go off of descriptions and matching item numbers. If you win you can always get your money back, but considering the fact that some scams only happen for small amounts of money would you hire an attorney for that? Also i would not trust paypal that much. i was told that paypal get reports against them as well. Im not gonna lie to you guys but honestly selling and doing online business transactions whether its with a store or another person is a risk. By using rating systems and going with people who are trusted is the way to go. Doesnt mean anything, but does better your chance of having a successful transaction. I hope that helps some what. You know if you gotten scammed and it has happen to many people on this forum a group effort maybe in order.