I have a 2000 Type R with a Turbo in it. I spoke with my tuner and they said that they would tune my car with hondata even though they have never used hondata before. They generally tune with AEM but have also tuned with many different systems. Is the Hondata easy to tune with?

I really don't care about all the extra features, what i want is a turbo car that idles as close to stock as possible and runs like it was a factory installed turbo.

Disregarding cost, would you reccomend that I get the AEM or should I get the Hondata?

 

I would recommend the Hondata. It's a little cheaper, and has all the functionality you should need.

Plus they've got awesome support for those calls you know you'll be making.

 

I wouldn't let your car be the guinea pig since they aren't used to Hondata....get a new tuner...one who is experienced with what you want to use.

 

ok heres my opinion on the matter.

I like Hondata becuase they have done all their R&D on Hondas and its specified for Hondas. so it works well .
if the tuner can do AEM im sure they can figure out Hondata fairly easily.
However if they never did Hondata before they dont know the little tricks and bugs with it. so i would advise against it.
Think about it. . . . you are paying by the hour for them to learn how to tune that system . so they are tuning your car and furthering their knowledge on new software on your money. PLus you are the guinea pig. i would either get another tuner or get something they have exp with.


Also they cant tune Hondata unless they or you have all the tuning software and chip burner from Hondata.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok heres my opinion on the matter.

I like Hondata becuase they have done all their R&D on Hondas and its specified for Hondas. so it works well .
if the tuner can do AEM im sure they can figure out Hondata fairly easily.
However if they never did Hondata before they dont know the little tricks and bugs with it. so i would advise against it.
Think about it. . . . you are paying by the hour for them to learn how to tune that system . so they are tuning your car and furthering their knowledge on new software on your money. PLus you are the guinea pig. i would either get another tuner or get something they have exp with.

Also they cant tune Hondata unless they or you have all the tuning software and chip burner from Hondata. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well said....especially the part about you paying them to pretty much educate themselves. Sounds like you may know a good tuner, but may not be most economically efficient for you. Search around, and see to it that it is tuned properly so that your not dumping more money into fixing a problem that should have been tweaked the first time around. Good Luck.

 

scott, check some of the later post on dyno tunning. Someone in il/wis took actual hondata classes and should be certified in using hondata. I don't know which thread exactly but it's in here. Just check.

 

Well, i just talked to my tuner again today and I found out that he is good friends with Tom Payn over at Payn Tech. Payn is an authorized Hondata dealer and they just recently tuned a type r with the same turbo setup as me and my tuner knows this. So would wouldn't my tuner be able to get all the details of the tune form payn?

Plus, they don't only tune with AEM, they have used many different systems. And they are getting me really good prices on stuff if I go through them.

 

yes they can get info from Payne , but why not just go to Payne . they have the experience. they would need to get the Hondata fom Payne anyway to tune it and the info from them so they know what they are doing . cut out the middle man

 

if i "cut out the middle man" that means i have to drive more than 5 hours each way. Also, my shop is giving me good prices and i am not just getting the tune, i am doing other mods as well.

 

well then if thats the case like i said , they will need to buy the Hondata S200 with all the options to tune your Hondata and they will need to learn to tune it .

Either that or they will have you spend the extra money to have you buy all the **** they need to tune the Hondata. then hopefully they give it to you when your done. Make sure your getting what you pay for , beucase you CANNOT tune Hondata without all the software and chip burner and an S200b and all that jazz. This isnt just an AEM where anyone can just plug into the ECU and just tune.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well then if thats the case like i said , they will need to buy the Hondata S200 with all the options to tune your Hondata and they will need to learn to tune it .

Either that or they will have you spend the extra money to have you buy all the **** they need to tune the Hondata. then hopefully they give it to you when your done. Make sure your getting what you pay for , beucase you CANNOT tune Hondata without all the software and chip burner and an S200b and all that jazz. This isnt just an AEM where anyone can just plug into the ECU and just tune. </TD></TR></TABLE>


yes im going to have to agree w/ itr206.

in order to tune the hondata systems.
you need:

s200b w/ datalogging & romeditor.

then atleast a chip burner (romulator makes life easier)

thats almost 1000 bucks right there....and they dont even know how to use it yet....

i dunno what to tell u man, but i sure as hell wouldnt let my car be the first they tune w/ hondata, you can **** **** up really quickly if u dont know what you're doing with any system....but thats just me...

 

from others previous experiences, I would say Hondata, but through a reputable tuner. Talk to Dropspeed, they may be talking about his ITR up there at Payn

 

Who's your tuner? You do know that besides Payn, you can take it to King Motorsports to have it tuned.

 

i would go with Hondata since it is the better system, but i would also find a tuner that is experienced with Hondata

 

I would def recommend hondata. I would not trust anyone that has never tuned with it. You could even get Mase to tune it, maybe you and him could work something out. He is about 5 to 6 hours from me but i'll be making the drive in the next month or soo.

 

If I was to go to the tuner that had never tuned Hondata, but always tuned AEM....Ignoring all other possible options, would you say that I should have them tune the Hondata (getting maps and settings from Payn) or have them tune the AEM which they are familiar with??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted R 25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I was to go to the tuner that had never tuned Hondata, but always tuned AEM....Ignoring all other possible options, would you say that I should have them tune the Hondata (getting maps and settings from Payn) or have them tune the AEM which they are familiar with??</TD></TR></TABLE>


did you not read the above posts at all dude?

 

Yes i did read above, I'm sorry. What I meant to say was if I get the AEM system and i have a skilled tuner, will the AEM be able to make my car ilde like stock and drive as much like a factory installed turbo as possible?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted R 25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes i did read above, I'm sorry. What I meant to say was if I get the AEM system and i have a skilled tuner, will the AEM be able to make my car ilde like stock and drive as much like a factory installed turbo as possible?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. No doubt.