im planning to turbo my b18c5 and want to push about 400-500whp.I did my research and found lots of things and ideas these were really great on several points, well im starting this new project on may 04 to be fanish by oct 04 hopefully and i will required a lot of help and advise , so please guide me as i go. this will be a daily driven.


b18c5 motor 81.5 bore
arias 9.5:1 compression pistons
eagle h-beam rods
arp rod bolts
aebs head studs
cometic headhasket
any advise on turbo kit set up
t3/60-1 stage 5 wheel
fullrace manifold
tial weastegate
silvya core i.c
2.5 d.p
tial b.o.v

255bhp fuel pump
f.p.r
hondata s200b
880cc injectors



Modified by JBLSVTEC at 12:55 AM 3/31/2004

 

I don't see why you would need that much power on the street but if those are you goals then . You better get the block sleeved and get a 3" downpipe with a 3" exhaust. And don't forget a nice wideband unit and some quality guages to go with your setup.

 

yeah i went too high on horsepower 4 the street maybe 350hp and 450 or so for the track yo.

 

if the block is built well enough then you shouldn't have much trouble making 500whp. just keep the boost down on the street unless you want to burn out in every gear

 

only thing I would change is I would go bigger bore...maybe 84 mm...and a 3 inch down pipe

 

No such thing as too much power

But yea...I wouldn't go above 350 on the street unless I was racing someone. Hoping to get my street car into the 500s as well

 

I'm planning on runnin either crower or pauter rods with cp pistons. You may want something a little stronger than the eagles.

 

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84mm bore with stock sleeves?

you can make those numbers fine with 81/81.5mm bore

 

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Words spoken by the driver of a slow car! Careful, you'll put your eye out with that turbo Ralphie!

Not enough people really realize just how fast "only" 300 hp in a little Honda is...there are way too many people talking about "500 this, 600 that". Unless you've had a car that fast before, you'll end up dead or at least wrecked.

I think this guy has a decent plan, but anything over 300 IMO should get sleeved.

 

300 WHP is more than enough power in a street car...now 450 WHP, major wheel spin!

 

so, to sleeve or not to sleeve, that is the question . there are very good advise my car is very light a 96 civic cx no a/c, no p/s, and to be running anything over 350 will be only wheel spin no dout. 350whp for street and 420whp for the track.

 

You don't always have to sleeve your motor, just ask Evo Hybrid https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=814302 Think of it as an insurance policy for bad tuning (re-sleeving I mean).

And for the guy recommending that you ditch the Eagles, I have to reming him of all the Domestic guys running Eagles and making 800, 900 and 1,000hp on them It's usually the bolts that are the cause of the failure.

Aside from that, the setup sounds like a good start.

 

No, you don't have to sleeve. You CAN run on the bleeding edge with good tuning. What happens when you get some bad fuel? Or when it gets way hotter than when you dyno tuned?

...detonation...
....craaaack....

I don't call that insurance (but that is a very popular phrase these days), rather a necessity (for me anyway).

 

I've had cars with that much power

Anyway....Pauter rods and CP pistons would be what I would do. Then again for 300HP you could easily just go with eagle, and no sleeves. I say anything under 450 with sleeves is foolish...just make sure your tuning is on point.

 

Ide sleeve i anyways.. Downtime sucks. Your going to wish you had later so just take the extra time. I all actualuailty time is all we have.

 

I think your making a step in the right direction but so much more to learn, Make a Street car to make that much power is more than just Pistons, rods and sleeved block. Yes you do need all that but there are more things i.e. Fuel management, Tuning, Suspension setup, Transmission etc... and of course a Sh*t load of money

We are currently make a 600hp Integra street car. and the transmission alone is going to cost a lil over $4,000.

Good luck with your project, just start buying the <U>proper</U> parts and don't go cheap on essential parts

 

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And for the guy recommending that you ditch the Eagles, I have to reming him of all the Domestic guys running Eagles and making 800, 900 and 1,000hp on them It's usually the bolts that are the cause of the failure.

Aside from that, the setup sounds like a good start.
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stronger bolts are available for eagle rods.. whats done on domestic cars running 8000hp is irrelevant to whats done on 400hp honda.

and sleeves would be a good idea for anything over high 200's - thats if you plan to daily drive it and boost all day long.

 

84 bore golden eagle slevees, arias pistons and eagle rods or maybe crowers.

 

I have GE sleeves, they look pretty good. (I can't state any numbers yet, because me engine is still being built).