tonight i meet some guy that wants to trade his 15" sw388s with DRs on all 4, for my 16" bronze rota c8s...

i dont know if this guy is crazy and dont know what his rims worth or if hes trying to scam me and give me some fakes.

what are some ways i can look at the rims and tell if they are real? ive read they are made by desmond or something like that and should have a sticker on them that says that.

thanks

 

If they are a powdery like off black look they are prob the real deal . the rota slips have more of a glossy type paint to them . its hard to explain , but id deff know them if i see them. i can tell you now , the guy is trying to get over on you. no one in their right mind would trade spoons for rotas.

 

the spoon rims will have russia imprinted on the inside of the rim.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If they are a powdery like off black look they are prob the real deal . the rota slips have more of a glossy type paint to them . its hard to explain , but id deff know them if i see them. i can tell you now , the guy is trying to get over on you. no one in their right mind would trade spoons for rotas. </TD></TR></TABLE>

he said the have spoon stamped on them so i dont think they are rotas, but is there another company that makes fakes?

 

the spoons dont have spoon stamped on them .also the Rotas have the exact same stamps inside and out. i know i have them and looked them over to real spoons. trust me . im sure you will end up getting taken on this deal .

 

its probably not spoons

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the spoons dont have spoon stamped on them .also the Rotas have the exact same stamps inside and out. i know i have them and looked them over to real spoons. trust me . im sure you will end up getting taken on this deal . </TD></TR></TABLE>

i could have sworn Spoon was stamped in yellow on the real deal

 

nope.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DRAG lll INTEGRA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i could have sworn Spoon was stamped in yellow on the real deal</TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe older SW's had a Spoon logo on one spoke (I'm not certain if it was a decal or painted, but not stamped). Try to determine if the wheels are painted/coated or not by looking for chips, flakes, etc. SW's are anodized black, so a painted wheel would be an obvious indication that they're fakes.

I found this photo that might help:

 

spoons have a different lip on them and they have a different cut around the stars

 

do a search under spoon w388 i found some topics on the real ones

 

rotas have "ROTA" cast into the back area of the hub. and as was mentioned above, the spoon flat black is much more matte/flat, whereas the rotas are more glossy.
Here's a pick of my car with my rotas when they were black. If you look closely you can see that the flat black they are still has some shine to it:


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94gsrsedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...and they have a different cut around the stars</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do you mean.

heres a pic of my slips after getting powdercoated red. You can see the lip pretty good in here. The lip on the spoons are different.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94gsrsedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spoons have a different lip on them and they have a different cut around the stars</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think the lip on 15" SW's and Slipstreams is pretty much the same.

However the lip on 16" Slips is the same as on the 15" slips, while 16" SW's have more of a smooth lip compared to the 15" SW's.

 

the real spoons are a diff. finish
rotas look more smooth

i think the spoons have a grainy look to em

 

you CAN get spoons with the logo on the spoke, and it's painted on in yellow. i have a buddy that got some (new in box from spoon). also, the real ones have russia stamped on the back.

 

If you look at them side by side, it's very easy to tell the difference. Just search around here for a good picture of each one and you'll see the difference. It's mostly the stamps on the back (Russia/Desmond) and the lip.

The color won't be the distinguishing factor because I believe Rota now does have flat black as an option for color.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pythonScott &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres a pic of my slips after getting powdercoated red. You can see the lip pretty good in here. The lip on the spoons are different.
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wtf? lol J/K

 

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meant to post a pic of my car wit rotas....obviously i dont know how to lol....

 

you have to put the URL fo the picture between [img ]and[/img ]

 

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"The new Spoon wheels feature the "Spoon Sports" logo on the spoke. Do not accept any imitations!"

 

what about the weight...i picked up a spoon rim and it was like 5 lbs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about the weight...i picked up a spoon rim and it was like 5 lbs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not 5 pounds but pretty light, i use to have some 15" regamasters evo's and were light!

 

the spoons are magnesium and have a more flat look to them and the slips are a lot more shiny

 

1. Desmond sticker on the inside
2. SW388 size sticker
3. Made in Russia stamp
4. Rota's have a small stamp toward the center on one of the spokes that Spoon's don't have
5. The real Spoon lip is straighter
6. The center section is more rounded on real Spoon's
7. Some replica's don't have the indentations on the side of the spokes like real Spoon's
8. Real 15 inch Spoon wheels weigh 3.8 kg's
9. Scraped or chipped areas will be black

I've researched this topic extensively, can you tell?