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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 01:35 PM
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Anyone know where I can find one of these, or something similar? http://www.racingcraft.com/images/ph...e-adjuster.jpg
I've done some searches, can't find anything.
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btw- for a 5th gen. civic or '94+ integra.


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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 02:01 PM
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Suspension Techniques has a picture of them in their one of their brochures I have and Strano Parts did have a listing for them, have not checked lately. I asked the local ST rep about them last year and he had no info on them but you might give them a call and see if they ever did make them. In the brochure they are called "Toe Adjusters" and were part of their "Pro Align" program. Sorry there is no part number listed in the brochure. I just went to Strano and they are listed as ST-57400 @ 169.00 Let us know if they can still get them. Thanks





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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 02:06 PM
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Default Re: racing rr toe link?? (jgale)

Some of the SVWC and MotoCup teams use this sort of rear toe adjuster, those that don't are adamant that you don't want to - mostly over structural concerns based on how flimsy the rear trailing arms are (you've probably noticed how much that snout deflects when you apply torque to the toe link bolt on the trailing arm). There's no denying that they could be helpful in making field toe adjustments easier.

Sorry, don't know where to buy any.

Scott, who also thought about whether the toe curve would be sensitive to small changes in link length....not that it's likely to be any more sensitive to that than to the small changes in inboard pickup location.....keep static rear wheel deflection under one inch and it's unlikely to be very important anyway.....
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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 03:25 PM
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King Motorsports has them. http://www.kingmotorsports.com/products/king/
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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 04:11 PM
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Unh-unh, those are rear camber links. Scott Zellner is one of those guys who'll tell you to stick with the stock toe links.

Scott, who always remembers what Scott Z says not to do....it's usually something I thought I wanted to do.....
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 05:46 AM
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Thanks for all the info. everyone. I must not have been wording my searches correctly.
The reason I wanted to look into this is because the bolt that ties the toe link to the chassis/body, seems to be a hinderance to the free movement of the the suspension. I had the coilovers out and the swaybar disconnected, when I tightened that bolt to the point of it not coming loose with some suspension movement, the suspension travel had some resistance. I figured with one of those links, the bolt would tighten against the inner part of the bearing/joint, and let the rest be free to move with the rest of the suspnsion.
Oh, and yes, the ease of fine adjustment would be better facilitated as well.
Sometimes I think I think too much. -there I go again...dooh!
Someone tell me if my thoughts are rediculous.
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 06:22 AM
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Default Re: racing rr toe link?? (civicrr)

the parts from King you have linked to are rear upper control arms, not toe links(look at the picture I posted a little closer-although a shitty pic). And they seem way overpriced. I found some parts very similar to those from Specialty Products Co. for $97 for the pair locally. Yeah, they're probably a little heavier, but definately worth the savings. Thanks anyway.
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 04:07 PM
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Sorry. My bad. I am pretty sure that they do offer a rear toe link. I think that is where the Harvey's said they got theirs from.
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 09:20 PM
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those that don't are adamant that you don't want to - mostly over structural concerns based on how flimsy the rear trailing arms are (you've probably noticed how much that snout deflects when you apply torque to the toe link bolt on the trailing arm).
So can't you box the trailing arm to prevent distortion?
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 10:05 PM
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You sure could, but there would be an attendent cost. You'll be changing the "weakest link" hierarchy, which I am always respectful of. Of course this is a very different matter for a rental race team that expects to have to fix impact damage frequently. I hate to say it, but to some degree experience has led me to occassionally adopting a policy simply because Scott Zellner says so. There, I said it.

Scott, who feels some shame...but not because life is just a little easier.....
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Old Oct 25, 2001 | 08:12 AM
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In most of the classes, boxing the rear arms or even seam welding is illegal.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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The king motorsports rear upper links have end links with spherical bearings. The benefits of this are zero deflection and a suspension that moves more freely without binding. They are probably both stronger and lighter than other company's links as well. For die-hard enthusiasts, they are absolutely worth the extra cost.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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holy three year old thread batman!!
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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I was wondering why the first link didn't work lol
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