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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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i went to get tuned yesterday and we tried everything even unhooking the boost controller from the wastegate and having it boost open and it still wont go over 20 psi. also it takes forever for the car to reach that 20 psi in 3rd or 4th gear.

also @ 20 psi i only made 318 to the wheels which is less then i made previously with the same tuner which was 326 @ 12 psi on stock internals.. we discovered that theres a problem with my timing and according to hondata and a timing light my timing was off so much that it made it look like my DIZZY was advanced 5 degrees when in reality it wasnt moved at all.... the tuner tried to correct as much timing electronically with hondata but it just wasnt enough.

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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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have you checked cam timming? i could have skiped a tooth
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 06:12 AM
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can the timing being off like that cause me only to make 318 to the wheels @ 20 psi? i mean i wasnt making any power
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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i would check your tbelt if it didnt skip seems to be issuing with camtiming rather that the ignition timing
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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what about my boost problem i couldnt make over 20 psi even with a open wastegate .. could that be my wastegate taking a ****?
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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Default Re: went to get tuned and cant make over 20 psi (nextelbuddy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nextelbuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
also @ 20 psi i only made 318 to the wheels which is less then i made previously with the same tuner which was 326 @ 12 psi on stock internals.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont forget your CR aint 10:1. But still your hp should not be that low for 20psi.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nextelbuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about my boost problem i couldnt make over 20 psi even with a open wastegate .. could that be my wastegate taking a ****?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your wg with the line disconnected will make whatever the turbo can push out what turbo are you running and what setup manifold wg
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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im running the drag manifold with deltagate wastegate and the t3/t4 E i beleive a.r .63
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Default Re: went to get tuned and cant make over 20 psi (nextelbuddy)

whats the spring rating on the wg. it self. is it 9psi or 7psi sticker on it. that is your limiting factor as well. If you planning on higher than 20psi get at tial that is 1.0bar 14psi spring and then boost on that unit if you need one let me know. The problem with cam timing .006 on the deck being cleaned will not effect it hardly at all. there something else going on wiht your setup .
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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yea my wastegate says 7 on it. i plan on getting a tial with a stiffer spring in it. so upgarding wastegates with a spring that is a lot stiffer shoudl make a improvement on being able to boost higher?

thanx for the help guys sorry i made 2 threads i wasnt thinking.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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yes that should help the boost problem also you are pushing the limits of you turbo in the efficiency range. I would upgrade to larger more efficient turbo such as the sc61 bandwagon. It works
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Ummm, check for boost leaks?
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ummm, check for boost leaks?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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