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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:01 AM
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I picked up a 91 integ rear sway bar and you have to take off the tow hooks in the back in order to mount the sway bar on, my problem is i can't take the tow hooks off. this was the same problem trying to take off the LCA before to change the suspension since none of the bolts were easy to take off. so in the mean time, i'm just planning to re-sell this 91 integ rear sway bar + LCA and plan on getting a ST rear sway bar or stock SI sway bar. But my question is where does teh ST sway bar mount and the stock SI sway bar mount? if it is the tow hooks then i'm guessing i'm screwed, but thanks in advance. and pictures would be nice
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:21 AM
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The Si bar mounts on the stock L braket thing that the tow hook is attached to. The ST kit includes its own L braket that you take the tow hook off and re-mount it with the ST L braket and its all bolt up.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:26 AM
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alright so the si stock sway bar you don't need to mess with the tow hooks but the ST sway bar you have to take off the tow hooks? i've been look for a picture online but no luck. thanks anyways
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:34 AM
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If you have an Si everything should already be there. I dont know about other models. The ST bar you take off the tow hooks and install the L braket, but they inlcude longer bolts for you to install the tow hooks back on.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:39 AM
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well i have a choice, get a si lca and rear sway bar, or get a ST sway bar and i have a civic dx. so since i would have to take the tow hooks off if i get a ST rear sway bar, i will just plan to get a SI sway bar since i dont' have to mess with the tow hooks
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 05:31 AM
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here u go

https://honda-tech.com/zero...66136

alot of pics of the rear st sway bar
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silverCRXTC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here u go

https://honda-tech.com/zero...66136

alot of pics of the rear st sway bar</TD></TR></TABLE>

In those pics I left the tow hooks off but you can leave them on. the ST swaybar uses the same bolt holes as the tow hooks but leaves room for the hooks to stay.

The Si swaybar uses the 2 holes in front of the tow hooks.

IMHO get the ST rear bar!! well worth it!!
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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Default Re: rear sway bar problem with mounting (thumpu77)

yeah but the two front holes of the tow hook i can't take off so that is a problem. i can't take any of the bolts off on the tow hook
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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Default Re: rear sway bar problem with mounting (katb16vo)

alright for the stock SI rear sway bar, you are saying there are two holes behind the tow hook (looking from behind the car) that will mount up with it so i wouldn't have to deal with the tow hooks?
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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the SI model that came equiped with a rear sway bar.. has 2 bakets where the rear sway bar mounts to .. it doenst have to do anything with the towhooks .. just the same as the integra .. the rear swaybar has its own mounts and has nothing to do with the towhooks

ST made a braket that its available for models that didnt come with a stock rear swaybar ... and that braket bolts on into the holes where the towhooks bolts on to the chassis

go look under your car .. and look for some holes near the towhooks .. if u see any that are threaded then u can use the stock SI brakets and the swaybar.. if not .. then u need to order the ST swaybar with the braket
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ST made a braket that its available for models that didnt come with a stock rear swaybar ... and that braket bolts on into the holes where the towhooks bolts on to the chassis
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st made the brackets attach to the tow hook points because its a much stronger place and they wouldnt have issues with ripping the mounts out. it had nothing to do with what trim level the car is. they also mount onto the shock instead of the arm for better leverage on the bar and better wheel rate.

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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 04:27 AM
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so the integ one will fit in the two holes behind the tow hook? by the looks of it, it looks like the integ sway bar is to long...
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lo-Buck EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

st made the brackets attach to the tow hook points because its a much stronger place and they wouldnt have issues with ripping the mounts out. it had nothing to do with what trim level the car is. they also mount onto the shock instead of the arm for better leverage on the bar and better wheel rate.

-spenc</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have to disagree. Like JCracer said, you need to check your car. If you look at where the Si bracket would normally go there are mounting holes. Unfortunately, on non-Si models these holes are just HOLES. On Si models these holes are threaded to accept a bolt to hold the bracket on.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have to disagree. </TD></TR></TABLE>

With what??????

This is how ST made the bars. This is how they attach to the car. What the hell do you disagree with???????<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lo-Buck EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

st made the brackets attach to the tow hook points because its a much stronger place and they wouldnt have issues with ripping the mounts out. it had nothing to do with what trim level the car is. they also mount onto the shock instead of the arm for better leverage on the bar and better wheel rate.

-spenc</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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Mr. Furball, did you just come to argue or what?

Lo-Buck EF was replying to JCracer723.

JCracer723 stated
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ST made a braket that its available for models that didnt come with a stock rear swaybar ... and that braket bolts on into the holes where the towhooks bolts on to the chassis</TD></TR></TABLE>


Then Lo-Buck EF stated
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">st made the brackets attach to the tow hook points because its a much stronger place and they wouldnt have issues with ripping the mounts out. it had nothing to do with what trim level the car is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The stock sway bar is trim specific. I believe that ST realized that not all trim have the threaded holes (as I wrote in my previous post.. did ya' read the whole thing????) and they made they bracket location in the next suitable place. True that the location they picked may in fact be a better place for not tearing th bolts out, but I don't think that's the sole reason why they chose that spot.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Default Re: rear sway bar problem with mounting (4drEF)

i think that ST even makes a rear sway bar for those cars (88-91) that came with a stock rear swaybar.. and it uses the stock rear brackets
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: rear sway bar problem with mounting (JCracer723)

there are two holes with threads behind the tow hooks on a 91 civic dx
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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stock 88-91 si rear sway bar = uses two holes behind the tow hook
90-93 integ rear sway bar + suspension technique rear sway bar = you have to take off the tow hook and put the mount on there.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have to disagree. Like JCracer said, you need to check your car. If you look at where the Si bracket would normally go there are mounting holes. Unfortunately, on non-Si models these holes are just HOLES. On Si models these holes are threaded to accept a bolt to hold the bracket on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

my 1991 std has those 'holes' and there 'threaded'

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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lo-Buck EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

my 1991 std has those 'holes' and there 'threaded'

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yep some do come with the holes threaded ,, unforntunaly my hf dont have them threaded
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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does anyone know if you can use the sanner 25mm bar with st mounting hardware (endlinks, mounting brackets)?

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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lo-Buck EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know if you can use the sanner 25mm bar with st mounting hardware (endlinks, mounting brackets)?

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come again?? sanner? more info on it pls
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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