There is a Mugen chip on ebay for 18 dollars that is for the jdm p13 ecu, first is it worth it? it claims 7-20 horse inprovement. and second what is the difference in the jdm ecu and the us ecu?

 

I bought a mugen chip... not for 18 bucks but it helped my f22b1 out a **** load

 

I say no
you want gains from an ECU, go out and buy a Hondata and have it dyno tuned

 

yeah alot of people say mugen/spoon chips are crapp but is there any improvements from a chipped ecu? I mean Hondata is quite expenisve. What about JEt p13 Chipped ecu? Are they also crap? I was contemplating about gettin one. My friend with a jdm h22 is on a mugen chipped ecu and he says its "awesome". HE says it feels more "torquey", and feels "faster". Thats why im gonna borrow it from him and see if there actually is a big difference and any gains.

How many peopel on the board have ran chipped ecu's? And what are their thoughts?Hopefully not eveyone will say they are crap and buy HOndata. haha not everyone can afford to head that direction.

 

I know everyone is going to say "buy hondata" because they dont know what they are talking about. But i for one have the mugen program. And if not only that it took of the Speed limiter, and raised the rev limiter to 8500, that enough was a justified buy for me. The fuel and ignition timing was redone, though i dont htink it made a huge difference (less then 5 hp) it still was a gain. If you cant afford a hondata, its a good buy. The fuel curve and ignition timing are pretty general, they wont affect a highly modded car as much as a lighlty(intake header exhaust) modded car because thats what they make the chip for. If you have high comp, cams and more mods, it might be a better idea to get the hondata, or a piggy back system at least for the fuel.
But then again if you get a hondata, you can make chips and sell them. You have to have the right hardware and such, but it can be done

 

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I think it is strange to run any program that has not been programmed specifically for your own application. But then, I guess I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

Better make sure anything bought on ebay is designed for your car...who knows what they loaded onto the chip...

 

Yeah, and i guess it is a pretty bad idea to rev a stock engine to 8500... err I guess maybe those engineers at Honda might kinda know what they were doing putting that rev limiter there... err... I guess if you have the money to build your engine and brains to do it right, you will get a Hondata and tune it instead of some program designed for specs on another car by a formula 1 engine maker... err.

maybe I don't know what I am talking about.

good luck to you.

 

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Wow 8500 rpm rev limiter huh. I bet thats useful on a stock h22a. You might want to rephrase your first statement to 'I don't know what I am talking about.'

 

where would you go to get a ecu chipped? I think it would be fun to have a chipped ecu temporaily before gettin hondata. Not everyone wants, or can go the expensive route. I mean its a damn cheap upgrade and some people who have used chipped ecu's see some hp gains.

 

jdmshit.com has good chips for h22's contact newman for more info

 

"Wow 8500 rpm rev limiter huh. I bet thats useful on a stock h22a. You might want to rephrase your first statement to 'I don't know what I am talking about.'"

No, ill keep it that you dont know, because i got it because the stock JDM rev limiter is 7300 or so, and i have skunk2 stage 2 cams, and id like to be able to rev it out a little more. So iuts not that stock.
And if you would read what i said..The chip is only a good idea for cars that arent modded heavily if they want to get a small gain because thats what the chip was programed for. Minor bolt ons...and ..errrrrr, why the hell do you talk like ....errrrr...maybe i have a hondata, but for people that only have....errrrrr....intake headers and a exhaust they dont....errrr...need a full fuel management ...errrr....ECU The chip is designed to be...err...used on semi stock motors for people who want a little bit better fuel trim and ignition timing on there....errr....car. BTW, errr.....maybe you do know what your talking about, but i cant tell.

apparently anyone that wants to take off the rev limiter, or get a chipped ECU has to get a hondata to be cool with you bastards here. Maybe if you realized that not everyone was as into the hobby as you and me, then youd understand that not everyone needs to have a Hondata(the best) i mean hell ,what good would a hondata even do on a relitively stock car?? as much as a chip....errr...its just too much for the mild builder.

 

lol, you have no clue who you are trying to argue with errrrrrrr.

eerrrrrr im not errrr going to errrr waste my time errrrr on arguing with errrrrr people errrrr like errrr you. errrrrr. lol errrrrr

 

when your motor gets fucked up dont come on here crying to us because were just gonna laugh at you

and dont even try to argue with Precision...hes a mod for a reason

 

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No, ill keep it that you dont know, because i got it because the stock JDM rev limiter is 7300 or so, and i have skunk2 stage 2 cams, and id like to be able to rev it out a little more. So iuts not that stock. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah... uhhh how long you think your stock valvetrain is gonna last with those s2s2cams reving past 7300??? HAHAHAHA!

hahahahaha go on, keep antagonizing a moderator...

errr... when your valves are bent now from hitting your pistons because you revved the hell out of your engine with your skunk2 vtec profiles... maybe you will wonder why chips like that suck.

Good luck to you.

 

Sure seems to be, alot of sheeps on here lately... Baaa, baaa

 

Percision, people like me? WTF do you mean by that? I know who im arguing with, and its not like i'm gonna kiss ya rings, lol. Just cause your a mod doesnt mean you know everything about everyhting. Granted im not trying to be a dick and get kick outta here, i think this is pretty funny that we arent even arguing over the topic. I dont know everything either, acctually im going to school right now to learn more. But its not like im making stuff up about a subject that i know nothing about. Why dont we get back on topic instead of getting bent out of shape.
Do you know who your trying to argue with??? ah ah ah jk
And superslow, who the hell said anything about running skunk2stage2 cams or stock valvetrain?? haha I'm not just another "i revved to 8000 in my h23 and it went boom, what happened" metality as you might think. I have "some" experience in what we are talking about.
As much as i'd like to continue arguing over the TOPIC, you guys seem to want to discredit me, and make is seem as though i dont know what im talking about even though your not doing a good job, AND you havent said a word about the topic. Now, if you want to get back on topic, Mr. Moderator errr....lol
BTW, I'm Rick James Bitches, show Charlie Murphy ya *******. ah ah ah, i can do a pretty good impression of him. Hilarious
Anyways, If you have anyhting to say about the topic, id like to hear it. What did i say in my previous posts that were wrong??
Like that fact that a chip shouldnt be used on highly moded car, any compression changes, or even an newer header(smsp,imagine) because that will change the needed fuel curve. Even though the chip is set up for a lightly modded car, alot of mods will change the needed fuel map. Thats why they make it a broad fuel map and ussually (like honda stock) will make it run a little rich.
Oh and Superslow? who would want to rev a h22a to 8500?? who said that?? i got the rev limiter moved up so i can AT LEAST rev to 8 so i can shift into my 6+ rpm power band. I know my freind's 5th gen revs to 8 on his tach, which is near 7800rpms, but with my UPGRADED VALVETRAIN i could rev to 13000 if my crank and bearings would hold together. The only reason to rev to 8 is to shift into the powerband.
I'll be looking forward to the &lt;cough&gt;lame&lt;cough&gt; comebacks
and err.....good luck to you


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