How to deal with Fraud ( The Scammer being SpoonLSVTEC)
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How to deal with Fraud ( The Scammer being SpoonLSVTEC)
First of all, thanks for reading, here is the post: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=80113
Now I would appreciate it if anyone has had any similar experiences and if you have or know anyone who has, what would be the proper procedure to get this guy caught and to get my money back. I'm sure there is a big legal issue considering that he works for CSIRacing, which obviously is a business.
Thanks in advance,
Isaac
Now I would appreciate it if anyone has had any similar experiences and if you have or know anyone who has, what would be the proper procedure to get this guy caught and to get my money back. I'm sure there is a big legal issue considering that he works for CSIRacing, which obviously is a business.
Thanks in advance,
Isaac
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (98 GS-R)
How much time did you allow before you give the guy a "scammer" name? In my experience, sometime transaction takes way too fugging long for no apparent reason. Understandably you can't reach the guy. What about e-mail? Give it a few more tries on his e-mail and wait another week. If nothing works, call the local authorities. (I do believe the members on this board are good people and would not jack other members.) G'luck.
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (Cosworth)
yea ur rite, i would say about 98% of the people here will live up to their word. but i recently got taken by that 2%......since ppl will pull this thread up, i mite as well warn you guys, do not deal with mucseehee607@aol.com as a matter of fact i think some1 on this board got taken by him too, but never i never knew til afterward 
i COD him for 70 bux and got a check back and it bounced 
not that i'm pissed over 70 bux, its just the principle of it ya know?? oh btw i know there are plenty of ppl from NY on this board, anyone live near johnson city, NY?? go n teach this scammer a lesson!!! 
[Modified by ITRinEJ, 4:25 PM 10/19/2001]
i COD him for 70 bux and got a check back and it bounced not that i'm pissed over 70 bux, its just the principle of it ya know?? oh btw i know there are plenty of ppl from NY on this board, anyone live near johnson city, NY?? go n teach this scammer a lesson!!! [Modified by ITRinEJ, 4:25 PM 10/19/2001]
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (ITRinEJ)
yea ur rite, i would say about 98% of the people here will live up to their word. but i recently got taken by that 2%......since ppl will pull this thread up, i mite as well warn you guys, do not deal with mucseehee607@aol.com as a matter of fact i think some1 on this board got taken by him too, but never i never knew til afterward i COD him for 70 bux and got a check back and it bounced not that i'm pissed over 70 bux, its just the principle of it ya know?? oh btw i know there are plenty of ppl from NY on this board, anyone live near johnson city, NY?? go n teach this scammer a lesson!!!
[Modified by ITRinEJ, 4:25 PM 10/19/2001]
i COD him for 70 bux and got a check back and it bounced not that i'm pissed over 70 bux, its just the principle of it ya know?? oh btw i know there are plenty of ppl from NY on this board, anyone live near johnson city, NY?? go n teach this scammer a lesson!!! [Modified by ITRinEJ, 4:25 PM 10/19/2001]
I anonymously e-mailed him 2 months after to see if he had a VAFC for sale. He said "yes I do, send me $250 and i'll ship em to you, Peace!" What a homo
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (98 GS-R)
1. Contact your local police, file police report.
2. Try to see if one of the moderators here can find the IP address of his ISP.
3. The ISP should know exactly who was using that ip number during the time he was on...report that this person was doing fraudulant activities over the internet. provide them with police report and any other evidence u have...
4. If you paid by CC, cntact your credit card company and report fraud.
5. If paid by check, contact your bank, they might be able to trace what account it was deposited into.
good luck
2. Try to see if one of the moderators here can find the IP address of his ISP.
3. The ISP should know exactly who was using that ip number during the time he was on...report that this person was doing fraudulant activities over the internet. provide them with police report and any other evidence u have...
4. If you paid by CC, cntact your credit card company and report fraud.
5. If paid by check, contact your bank, they might be able to trace what account it was deposited into.
good luck
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (redblues)
As i have said on the classified board. Its a big missunderstanding with the post office. I have the wrong tracking number so i will have to sort it out with them on monday morning. I will post the proof then. Sorry for the problems.
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (SpoonLSVTEC)
hey 98gsr what would you like me to post for you to beleive me? Let me know and ill do it. I think i still have the receipt but if not i deff have the delivery confirmation card. Let me know .
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (98 GS-R)
I used to go to college by Johnson City, NY. Its about 4 hours away from NYC. Its located in Western New York by Binghamton, NY. Try to contact HT members from Syracuse or Binghamton area.
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (KayOs)
why are you guys so determined in finding me? It was a simple missunderstanding!I am in florida. I have no problem giving out my info. Everything will be cleared up mon morning.
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (SpoonLSVTEC)
See, H-T members are honest. 
p.s. to the original poster... no offense, but do not label a person a "scammer" until you have given it the longest possible time. In some cases, the "scammer" really turns into one and you'll not get anything in return.
p.s. to the original poster... no offense, but do not label a person a "scammer" until you have given it the longest possible time. In some cases, the "scammer" really turns into one and you'll not get anything in return.
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (SpoonLSVTEC)
aaah.. Good... clears things up so we can breathe clean air..
it is wonderful if we all can benefit from trading using the internet, no?
in my Home country, there is no way it will happen...
I mean, I don't even trust the postman..
USA
ever wonder why those Taliban hates us? Jealousy!!
Edit:
Hey.. what I wrote here means that it is good to see the family of H-Tech trying to clear things up in a mature way..
Buyers, be patient.... don't screw someone's name before you got the fact. it is hard to clear someone's name and you might regret it.
Sellers, better be true to your customer. Customer = king. always.
at least, that's how I do business.(both as buyer and seller)
[Modified by PiYoImuT, 11:58 PM 10/19/2001]
clears things up so we can breathe clean air.. it is wonderful if we all can benefit from trading using the internet, no?in my Home country, there is no way it will happen...
I mean, I don't even trust the postman..
USA
ever wonder why those Taliban hates us? Jealousy!!
Edit:
Hey.. what I wrote here means that it is good to see the family of H-Tech trying to clear things up in a mature way..
Buyers, be patient.... don't screw someone's name before you got the fact. it is hard to clear someone's name and you might regret it.
Sellers, better be true to your customer. Customer = king. always.
at least, that's how I do business.(both as buyer and seller)
[Modified by PiYoImuT, 11:58 PM 10/19/2001]
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My question is...
....if it was a misunderstanding, why did you not contact him and tell him sooner? Why did it have to be made public before you decided to let him know what happened? And what about the guy that sent the Type-R wing for the VAFC? Did he ever get it?
But, I know sh*t happens when you deal w/the P.O. and UPS. UPS lost my $2100 computer some guy bought through eBay over 5 months ago, and they STILL haven't sent me the $. They say that they shipped it back and I signed for it? Really? When I asked them to fax me a copy of the signed slip, they suddenly realized they made an "error." But they still haven't paid me, bastards!
[Modified by eternal21, 11:57 PM 10/19/2001]
But, I know sh*t happens when you deal w/the P.O. and UPS. UPS lost my $2100 computer some guy bought through eBay over 5 months ago, and they STILL haven't sent me the $. They say that they shipped it back and I signed for it? Really? When I asked them to fax me a copy of the signed slip, they suddenly realized they made an "error." But they still haven't paid me, bastards!
[Modified by eternal21, 11:57 PM 10/19/2001]
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Re: My question is... (eternal21)
You must have me confused with someone else. I never made a deal like that. I never even owned a vafc. I didnt contact him sooner because i assumed he had got it. I sent it priority 2 day so I figured nothing was wrong.
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Re: My question is... (SpoonLSVTEC)
You must have me confused with someone else. I never made a deal like that. I never even owned a vafc.
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (Supersonic DC2)
yea ur rite, i would say about 98% of the people here will live up to their word. but i recently got taken by that 2%......since ppl will pull this thread up, i mite as well warn you guys, do not deal with mucseehee607@aol.com as a matter of fact i think some1 on this board got taken by him too, but never i never knew til afterward i COD him for 70 bux and got a check back and it bounced not that i'm pissed over 70 bux, its just the principle of it ya know?? oh btw i know there are plenty of ppl from NY on this board, anyone live near johnson city, NY?? go n teach this scammer a lesson!!!
[Modified by ITRinEJ, 4:25 PM 10/19/2001]
A friend of mine got ripped off by the same person. Claim to have a VAFC for trade. My friend sent a Type R wing as a trade. But the looser never lived up to his end of the deal.
I anonymously e-mailed him 2 months after to see if he had a VAFC for sale. He said "yes I do, send me $250 and i'll ship em to you, Peace!" What a homo
i COD him for 70 bux and got a check back and it bounced not that i'm pissed over 70 bux, its just the principle of it ya know?? oh btw i know there are plenty of ppl from NY on this board, anyone live near johnson city, NY?? go n teach this scammer a lesson!!! [Modified by ITRinEJ, 4:25 PM 10/19/2001]
A friend of mine got ripped off by the same person. Claim to have a VAFC for trade. My friend sent a Type R wing as a trade. But the looser never lived up to his end of the deal.
I anonymously e-mailed him 2 months after to see if he had a VAFC for sale. He said "yes I do, send me $250 and i'll ship em to you, Peace!" What a homo
I'm talking about the person w/ the e-mail address mucseehee607@aol.com, he lives in NY. I apologized if it looked like I was blaming SpoonLSVTEC. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT HIM, sorry for the confusion
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Re: My question is... (SpoonLSVTEC)
I say just give him till Monday to prove his point. Monday comes around and he doesnt live up to his words, then i say find the bastard n when he's off guard, jack his shiet or give it a new paintjob. But till then, USPS is not too reliable at this point with all the security measures enacted w/ all the recent events happening.
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Re: My question is... (SpoonLSVTEC)
Yeah, USPS might take an extra few days to clear w/ the damn anthrax hoax. Also, I DO NOT TRUST UPS. Those fuggers lost my $1500 rims. They said, "we didn't do it... it walk away from the truck". Yeah, right. At least I got it settled and got my money back.
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They said, "we didn't do it... it walk away from the truck". Yeah, right. At least I got it settled and got my money back. [Modified by Cosworth, 2:00 PM 10/20/2001]
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Re: How to deal with Fraud (98 GS-R)
IF you have a problem with a shop or person, try http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp
However, make sure all your claims are correct and you can back them up. That means copies of all emails, times of all calls, etc.
However, make sure all your claims are correct and you can back them up. That means copies of all emails, times of all calls, etc.