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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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what is everyone doing about emission thanks bob
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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I take my car to the service station. They give me one of these:

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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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yea that looks right lol
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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in IL and do they just plug in the ecu
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by unknown2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is everyone doing about emission thanks bob</TD></TR></TABLE>

Could you be more vague please? The question justs has an answer that is way to specific. You need to broaden your approach.

Usually you take the car to get tested like RJ. here, and then you pass or fail.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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LOL at RJ!!!
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by unknown2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is everyone doing about emission thanks bob</TD></TR></TABLE>

What I'm doing is I let my car emit
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by unknown2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is everyone doing about emission thanks bob</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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All they did for me was plug something in my computer box and Ran a couple of test and I was done. They didn't even do that exhaust thing.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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Most states are going to this with OBD-2 cars.

The ECU will throw a code long before the car fails a sniffer test.

Probably wont happen in Va, now that all the emissions shops have 2 wheel dynos for testing.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ECU will throw a code long before the car fails a sniffer test.
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I don't believe my Mugen ECU will throw any stinking codes.
I don't think it even knows what "codes" are!!
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't believe my Mugen ECU will throw any stinking codes.
I don't think it even knows what "codes" are!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well if an emissions inspector were to plug his OBD-2 Scanner into your ECU and could not even communicate with it, i suspect you'd fail.

My dad told me there will be code scans for OBD-2 cars in the near future, but the dynos/sniffers arent likely to go away. So dont sell your stock ECU
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> So dont sell your stock ECU </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, that's the beauty of plug an play (actually I even have a spare stock ECU).

On a lark/bet I tried passing VA emissions a couple years ago with a mugen ECU, only missed on one of the NOx readings with everything else passing.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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cal. does ecu scans on obd2 cars.
they are suppose to annyways
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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What about when someone's running Hondata on a P28 or something?
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I don't believe my Mugen ECU will throw any stinking codes.
I don't think it even knows what "codes" are!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine threw a MAP sensor code last year, but other than that, has never thrown a code.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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IN NV, IF THE SMOG MACHINE CANNOT CONNECT TO THE CAR, THE CAR FAILS. IF THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS ON IT ALSO FAILS, AND IF THE MONITERS (CAT., O2 SENSOR HEATER, EGR SYSTEM, ETC.) ARE NOT SET THEN IS ALSO FAILS. MY CAR WON'T PASS TAILPIPE DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE MODIFICATIONS, BUT IT PASSES OBD-II NO PROBLEM.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about when someone's running Hondata on a P28 or something? </TD></TR></TABLE>
If the car is OBD2, it fails.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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thanks everyone
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If the car is OBD2, it fails.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats as long as they do ecu scan.. you can pass with hondata if your area doesn't do ecu scan
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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I just had my Inspection done...and the place didn't even do Emissions on mine(Here in Charlotte N.C--Mecklenburg/Union County) I thought we had to do Emssions now,...but the guy was like only on 95 and below???

I've never normally had to worry about that coming From Fayetteville NC(pass w/ a open header )...but I guess I don't have to worry here either.

Looks like its a Go on my Header/test pipe(or SMSP cat) in the future.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thats as long as they do ecu scan.. you can pass with hondata if your area doesn't do ecu scan</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here in California, in the "enhanced" areas, OBD2 scan is mandatory. It's a pain in the *** when the car fails the scan, not because of a trouble code, but because the readiness tests are not complete.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Here in California, in the "enhanced" areas, OBD2 scan is mandatory. It's a pain in the *** when the car fails the scan, not because of a trouble code, but because the readiness tests are not complete. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it does suck for many parts of U.S. rsx people will have it easy since hondata will make it compatibable with emmision scans and you can run boost!
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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on the illinois test sheet you get in the mail. it states: starting jan. 1st 2004 if you pass a visual bulb check(check engine light) then they go to the next step, they hook it up to the obd2 plug. if you get no data, you fail.
when they plug it in they are not just checking for codes, they are also checking the values of the sensors, to make sure they are doing there job. the system is called "hex mode 6". this is why you have a car that passes, and has to go back and retest in 6 months compaired to the normal 2 years because the car car might have a border line cat. system, or a small leak detected in the evap sys. but not a big enough leak to throw a code.

but as for a chipped p28 or a system like the aem ems, on a obd2 car, you fail on the spot. this is why i registered my car as a show car, and i get exempted
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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Hmmm ... I see a market for an OBD "emulator". hehe &lt;evil scientist mad laugh&gt;
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