I'm getting my turbo installed this week and i want to know should i get it tuned with chevron or 76 pump gas 91 octane (CA SUCKS) or 76 cool blue race gas... my setup is

LS Vtec with b16 head
Endyn 9:1 rollerwaves 81.5mm
Eagle H beam rods
Skunk2 cam gears
aem fuel rail w/ aem fpr
Act 4 puck xtreme
12lb flywheel
720cc injectors
hondata s200b
ITR intake manifold
JG 65mm throttle body
ARP Head bolts
BBK 255lph fuel pump
Crane cam hi-6 ignition

Turbo
Drag gen 3 manifold
Turbonetics T3/T4 .63 ar .57 trim
HKS 40mm standard wastegate
Greddy Type R bov
spearco fmic
2.5in downpipe to 3" thermal exhaust

Im looking for around 350-375whp @ around 16psi give or take... It will be tuned at DSR. LMK what u guys think, TIA

 

if you're going to drive it daily i'd suggest tuning the car on pump gas first

 

Why risk your setup in 1hr. Good fuel = insurance.

 

daily driver? tune with pump gas and report back with the numbers

 

Ask yourself if u can afford race gas everytime you fill up.

 

I can't imagine how quick race gas would add up in a daily driver

 

Ask yourself if you can afford another rebuild if something goes wrong. 16psi is not low boost levels, what happens if it spikes? or a injector goes bad?(your doing it for the things that are outta your control) $50 of good fuel is better then $1000 or more if anything goes wrong, and thats just for dyno tunning not every day driving.

Check the link https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=790494 it could easily happen to you.

 

yeah the car will see the track once or twice a month... i guess i will use race gas for the tuning and at the track. do i mix the 91 octane with the race gas 110 octane?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MIKES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ask yourself if you can afford another rebuild if something goes wrong. 16psi is not low boost levels, what happens if it spikes? or a injector goes bad?(your doing it for the things that are outta your control) $50 of good fuel is better then $1000 or more if anything goes wrong, and thats just for dyno tunning not every day driving.

Check the link https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=790494 it could easily happen to you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you tune on race gas and daily drive on pump gas.... you will blow your engine for sure

 

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If you tune on race gas and daily drive on pump gas.... you will blow your engine for sure </TD></TR></TABLE>

He meant get a good tune down on race gas, get the kinks worked out of your system, then move down to pump gas.

 

how will i blow my motor for sure? i'm tuning it on race gas for about 16lbs or so and daily driving with about 10lbs on pump gas

 

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He meant get a good tune down on race gas, get the kinks worked out of your system, then move down to pump gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If that is what he meant then I misunderstood his answer.

I said you would blow your engine for sure I said it because race gas and pump gas are two different beasts... Burn rates, Specific Gravity and Octane. They react differently to timing advance and compression. If you tuned for race gas for 16psi and drove on pump at 10 psi I believe you would cause major damage to your engine.

Now if you were to tune on race gas to stress test your other supporting systems (fuel, cooling ect.) Then tuned a separate map for pump gas then that would be fine.

IMO

 

really?? how can i get another base map? how many lbs do you guys think i will be able to do with 91 octane with a decent tuner?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrueNorthStar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If that is what he meant then I misunderstood his answer.

I said you would blow your engine for sure I said it because race gas and pump gas are two different beasts... Burn rates, Specific Gravity and Octane. They react differently to timing advance and compression. If you tuned for race gas for 16psi and drove on pump at 10 psi I believe you would cause major damage to your engine.

Now if you were to tune on race gas to stress test your other supporting systems (fuel, cooling ect.) Then tuned a separate map for pump gas then that would be fine.

IMO</TD></TR></TABLE>


You are putting in race fuel to dial in your program. Your first couple cracks at it are not going to be bang on. Race fuel and pump gas doesn't mean **** when it gets back on the street, because if you are a good tuner you know what the customer wants his car tuned for so your not going to make a agressive program for when he puts back in pump gas it grenaids. Its not rocket science. You are tunning with added security, not tunning for kill. If that actually happens you deserve it for being so stupid.
Look at his mod list, I see dollar bills all over it. Why would you spend that much money on a setup and cheap out for $50. Is your investment not worth keeping alive if something happens?

 

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You are putting in race fuel to dial in your program. Your first couple cracks at it are not going to be bang on. Race fuel and pump gas doesn't mean **** when it gets back on the street, because if you are a good tuner you know what the customer wants his car tuned for so your not going to make a agressive program for when he puts back in pump gas it grenaids. Its not rocket science. You are tunning with added security, not tunning for kill. If that actually happens you deserve it for being so stupid.
Look at his mod list, I see dollar bills all over it. Why would you spend that much money on a setup and cheap out for $50. Is your investment not worth keeping alive if something happens?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You must only tune for WOT I say If you are going to run pump gas in your car tune it on pump gas. There is no reason to tune it on race gas just to be safe while you are tuning. Any good tuner can tune a engine on pump gas safely.

Yes you can have two maps, you just have to make sure you load the right one for the right fuel. You would have to save each map to your laptop and load the right one at the right time

 

the car will see track time mayb once a month or so... if i tune it on pump gas i will put pump gas at the track running the max amount of boost tuned and if its tuned on race gas it will see race gas at the track at the max amount of boost tuned also... its not like im tuning it on race gas and running it on pump gas at the track... on the streets it will not see the max amount of boost tuned

 

What will you be using to TUNE with? S-AFC? Hondata? this might help us to help you more.

Chris

 

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12lb flywheel
720cc injectors
hondata s200b &lt;---------------- he will be using hondata
ITR intake manifold
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