Best suspension set up
Alright in april im going to be getting a job that will be making me some bank, first things i decided i wanna do to my 1998 Honda Prelude is Full suspension work. I was thinkin full Tein Coilovers/shocks and suspesnsion techniques anti-sway bars, and maybe cusco strutbars. could anyone give me specific names on which parts to get like on the tein shocks/coils i dunno which one to get s-tech and etc. and also about the cusco i dont know of applications on my lude but i heard cusco is one of the best brands out there and suspension techniques i know is good because my friend has it in his 4th gen lude please let me know while i research as well
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my unlimited funds suspension setup:
JIC FLT-A2 coilovers with rear 7kg/mm spring replaced with 12 kg/mm hypercoil spring
-or-
Ground control sleeves with 10kg/mm F 12 kg/mm R with moton remote reservoir shocks
Progress 27mm adjustable rear sway/ST front sway
15x8 Volk TE-37's with 225/50/15 BFG TA K/D's or BS S-03's
and if it was a race build a full custom built cage.
and that's pretty much it. no strut bars, no tie bars, no pillar bars.
JIC FLT-A2 coilovers with rear 7kg/mm spring replaced with 12 kg/mm hypercoil spring
-or-
Ground control sleeves with 10kg/mm F 12 kg/mm R with moton remote reservoir shocks
Progress 27mm adjustable rear sway/ST front sway
15x8 Volk TE-37's with 225/50/15 BFG TA K/D's or BS S-03's
and if it was a race build a full custom built cage.
and that's pretty much it. no strut bars, no tie bars, no pillar bars.
ok here are my opinions:
with unlimited funds... (my dream set-up!!)
Endless Function-S6 coil-over
Spoon tower bars (front and rear)
ST front sway bars, Progress rear bar
Tanabe front and rear lower tie bars (may have some clearence issuses...)
Ingalls or Progress camber kits
i am running H&R race spring and konis now...lovin it!
it is just my humble opinions
with unlimited funds... (my dream set-up!!)
Endless Function-S6 coil-over
Spoon tower bars (front and rear)
ST front sway bars, Progress rear bar
Tanabe front and rear lower tie bars (may have some clearence issuses...)
Ingalls or Progress camber kits
i am running H&R race spring and konis now...lovin it!
it is just my humble opinions
No need to get JDM crap like cusco and JIC.
Get
Koni/Ground Control. Great customer service. And if you ever need to revalve and re spring the turn-over time is less that JDM companys.
Progress rear bar, or ST bar. DO NOT GET A FRONT BAR.
Neuspeed front tower bar.
Relocate battery to rear right side on trunk
Rip out AC
Once you've done all of this its just a matter of find the right spring rate you're comfortable with. Its typical to go with a high rate spring in the rear and a less rate spring in te front.
Get
Koni/Ground Control. Great customer service. And if you ever need to revalve and re spring the turn-over time is less that JDM companys.
Progress rear bar, or ST bar. DO NOT GET A FRONT BAR.
Neuspeed front tower bar.
Relocate battery to rear right side on trunk
Rip out AC
Once you've done all of this its just a matter of find the right spring rate you're comfortable with. Its typical to go with a high rate spring in the rear and a less rate spring in te front.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RAB »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DO NOT GET A FRONT BAR.
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depends on what your priorities are. I could use a front bar to help in slaloms and tight chicanes and anything that requires quick countering. i could dial out the understeer with spring rates, tire pressures, and rear sway adjustment.
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depends on what your priorities are. I could use a front bar to help in slaloms and tight chicanes and anything that requires quick countering. i could dial out the understeer with spring rates, tire pressures, and rear sway adjustment.
thanks for all the info i was doing some research and cusco makes nothing for my car and i know how the ST bars ride my friend has it and love it still lookin for suspension set up i still gotta take money into consideration, but consedering everyones suggestions thanks again, ohh yea another thing DC strut bars and tie bars
???
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My current setup right now is JIC FLA2 coilover set with Tanabe Front and rear sway bars and rear tanabe Strut bar and Lower front tie bar. I have energy suspension bushings and I am sitting on Mugen 17 inch MF 10s with 215 45 series rubber Nitto Neo gens. All i need is a custom roll cage
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlckBeautyVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ohh yea another thing DC strut bars and tie bars
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlckBeautyVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">, ohh yea another thing DC strut bars and tie bars
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luda01 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey do you have a pic of you car?</TD></TR></TABLE> if its for me i dunno how to post them here on HT and also yea thats what i firued for the DC bars, what are some good quality brand that makes some for my prelude
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strut bars are pretty much a waste of money. and they're not a suspension component.
think about it, double wishbone, unibody...they don't make any sense. reinforcement adjacent to the firewall and rear cabin, yeah THAT'll do alot...
maybe something inside the cabin, like a cpillar bar or a full cage would help with chassis rigidity. i've air-chiseled some shock towers before, do you know how thick and beefy they are? it took 20 minutes on the chisel to cut out a piece of frame the size of a baseball...and this was on a DC2.
think about it, double wishbone, unibody...they don't make any sense. reinforcement adjacent to the firewall and rear cabin, yeah THAT'll do alot...
maybe something inside the cabin, like a cpillar bar or a full cage would help with chassis rigidity. i've air-chiseled some shock towers before, do you know how thick and beefy they are? it took 20 minutes on the chisel to cut out a piece of frame the size of a baseball...and this was on a DC2.
yeah i had a mugen front tower strut bar and that seemed to helpmaybe it was my imagination, and yeah cpillar bar is on my list my friend had one in his EK hatch that thing handled like a champ only thing that made him lose control was his tires not grippin
Actually some cars they make a huge difference. I didn't notice much difference, but I've helped friends do them and it was day and night. It felt like the car had better shocks after adding just a front STB. Yes it's true that the A-arm mounts further down, but the load still results in similar chassis strain to a strut.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB6Marsh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually some cars they make a huge difference. I didn't notice much difference, but I've helped friends do them and it was day and night. It felt like the car had better shocks after adding just a front STB. Yes it's true that the A-arm mounts further down, but the load still results in similar chassis strain to a strut.</TD></TR></TABLE>
on macpherson strut suspensions i can see it being more effective.
on macpherson strut suspensions i can see it being more effective.
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