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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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preface - i drive a 240sx, and i know a lot of you guys hate drifting. Even so, this is a smart forum and i hope i dont get flamed too bad

hi guys. i took my car to a drift meet a little while ago and i was understeering quite a good deal. My front shocks were on full soft, rear on full hard. rear tires on 32, fronts on 28. about 2.5 neg camber in the front and the rear on stock settings. I swapped my front tires later on thinking that they mightve been too hot or somthing, and then the front gripped good for about 2 runs, then it started skipping all over again.

The only other thing i could think was that my car is too low and the front susp is bottoming out before the rear, even though my springs are pretty hard (front 8 kgf/mm rear 6 kgf/mm).

Does anyone know if raising my car in the front will correct the understeer? any other ideas? thanks all!
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Default Re: trouble with suspension settings, car height? (Buttcrack)

Are you bottoming out in the front? Those springs are not very stiff at all.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you bottoming out in the front? Those springs are not very stiff at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not stiff for a Honduh.

different cars have different motion ratios.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Default Re: trouble with suspension settings, car height? (Buttcrack)

you could definetly be bottoming out if you are too low


Um here is what the magazine Sport Compact Car did to their "used to be a 240 now a silvia" veichal:
http://sportcompactcarweb.com/...lvia/


but then again, their car is set up for street driving and "grip" situations, not drifting.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Default Re: trouble with suspension settings, car height? (Autoxjoe)

thanks for the info guys

guess i shouldve said relativley stiff, they are like rocks next to the stock stuff
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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in my experience with s13 and s14, 8/6 with good dampening is a good grip and drift setting. its mac strut, so the wheel rate is differant and 8k is pritty stiff. what shocks or coilovers are you using? what swaybars are you using? could it have been a driver issue, not a suspension setting issue?
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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McStrut front ends like a lot of front sway bar to keep the car level and avoid losing much of the static camber. What are your tire sizes and what kind of tires? What kind of motor do you have? Trying to power out the back end without enough power to keep the back end spinning will turn into understeer. You NEED a clutch type limited slip or just the inside will spin, which will not be drifting.

Out of curiosity, how come I mostly see pics of Japanese cars drifting? Camaros and Mustangs are better suited to it. Solid rear axles for no rear camber change and 300-350 ft/lbs torque. Plus an 80's vintage IROC-Z or 5.0 is dirt cheap with huge power increases fairly cheap too. Just wondering.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohudsolo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Out of curiosity, how come I mostly see pics of Japanese cars drifting? Camaros and Mustangs are better suited to it. Solid rear axles for no rear camber change and 300-350 ft/lbs torque. Plus an 80's vintage IROC-Z or 5.0 is dirt cheap with huge power increases fairly cheap too. Just wondering.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because they don't look as good with all the stickers...

There are some Mustangs in the Feb GRM "drifting" issue.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSpeedR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Because they don't look as good with all the stickers...

There are some Mustangs in the Feb GRM "drifting" issue. </TD></TR></TABLE>

And a Pontiac GTO driven by Millen in D1GP at Irwindale.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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its because drifting to the public is new here nd everyone wants to emulate their favorite japanese drifters. once drift takes its own line int he states, people will drift american cars more. im thinkin about a towncar......
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