An R for an NSX
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Re: An R for an NSX (B2FiNiTY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sure a lot of people would do that. I don't see why not except maintanence costs. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah I've heard that would be a huge drawback. But then again, you have to pay to play. I've spoken to Ken (nsxtasy) about the costs of upkeep and maintenance a few times and they are quite pricey.
Its basically your own decision in the end, but if you can afford the upkeep on a 10 year old car which may have problems down the road then go for it
Yeah I've heard that would be a huge drawback. But then again, you have to pay to play. I've spoken to Ken (nsxtasy) about the costs of upkeep and maintenance a few times and they are quite pricey.
Its basically your own decision in the end, but if you can afford the upkeep on a 10 year old car which may have problems down the road then go for it
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Re: An R for an NSX (B2FiNiTY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't see why not except maintanence costs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, I can speak to this...
As a dedicated track car, the NSX is great. Stock vs stock, there is no comparison when it comes to performance.
However, if I had to own only one car - a car to take to the track, AND for daily driving and commuting to work, AND for year-round driving in a climate that experiences winter, AND for shopping and occasionally bringing home big boxes of stuff - I would easily choose the ITR over the NSX.
Both are great cars, and lots of fun. I enjoy owning one of each - best of both worlds.
P.S. The maintenance schedule for the NSX is very similar to that of the ITR, and the parts aren't all that different in cost. So in most respects, the maintenance costs are similar. The big differences are primarily due to frequent replacement of the tires, and $2K clutch jobs, and tires. Oh, and did I mention the tires?
Well, I can speak to this...
As a dedicated track car, the NSX is great. Stock vs stock, there is no comparison when it comes to performance.
However, if I had to own only one car - a car to take to the track, AND for daily driving and commuting to work, AND for year-round driving in a climate that experiences winter, AND for shopping and occasionally bringing home big boxes of stuff - I would easily choose the ITR over the NSX.
Both are great cars, and lots of fun. I enjoy owning one of each - best of both worlds.
P.S. The maintenance schedule for the NSX is very similar to that of the ITR, and the parts aren't all that different in cost. So in most respects, the maintenance costs are similar. The big differences are primarily due to frequent replacement of the tires, and $2K clutch jobs, and tires. Oh, and did I mention the tires?
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Re: An R for an NSX (nsxtasy)
Unfortunately I can't afford both cars as much as I like to have best of both worlds. 
At the moment my R is doing all the chores you have described except commuting to/from work as it is a weekend car/track toy. However I plan to sell in order to fund the X and it is only gonna be a weekend and track car. I would also get a 91 civic and use that to do all the chores and legwork but I will probably end up boosting that as I know I will miss boost if I go back to na again.
Tires really wear out that quick on the X? What the average road use mileage on the rears? Surely the parts on the X costs much more than the R?
At the moment my R is doing all the chores you have described except commuting to/from work as it is a weekend car/track toy. However I plan to sell in order to fund the X and it is only gonna be a weekend and track car. I would also get a 91 civic and use that to do all the chores and legwork but I will probably end up boosting that as I know I will miss boost if I go back to na again.Tires really wear out that quick on the X? What the average road use mileage on the rears? Surely the parts on the X costs much more than the R?
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Re: An R for an NSX (Champ R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Champ R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd definitely trade mine up and am thinking about doing so this summer. Only thing is i kinda want a 97+, and those fetch fairly high prices with low-medium miles. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Precisely, which is why I have no choice but to go for an older model as they're cheaper and all I can afford...At least it will get me into that league
Precisely, which is why I have no choice but to go for an older model as they're cheaper and all I can afford...At least it will get me into that league
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Re: An R for an NSX (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">However, if I had to own only one car - a car to take to the track, AND for daily driving and commuting to work, AND for year-round driving in a climate that experiences winter, AND for shopping and occasionally bringing home big boxes of stuff - I would easily choose the ITR over the NSX.
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hrm...
GF has CRV for shopping and carrying misc stuff
Driving to jobs would be fun
No real winters in socal
Can't carry a golf bag
Can't carry my work gear
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shi - who's gonna be stuck w/ 234 for bit longer 
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hrm...
GF has CRV for shopping and carrying misc stuff
Driving to jobs would be fun
No real winters in socal
Can't carry a golf bag
Can't carry my work gear
y
shi - who's gonna be stuck w/ 234 for bit longer
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Re: An R for an NSX (SamC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SamC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My question would be..what's the insurance of the NSX compare to the R?</TD></TR></TABLE>
when i looked into it, it was cheaper for the nsx
when i looked into it, it was cheaper for the nsx
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Re: An R for an NSX (swlabhot)
Here come a few long answers to short questions. You can read more about tires and alignment in the Tires & Wheels area of the NSX FAQ.
Yes, they wear out much more quickly. How much more quickly depends on your alignment, and what kind of tires you have.
The original specs on the NSX when it was introduced called for toe out in front, and 6 mm of toe in, in the rear. They give great handling and precise cornering, at the expense of rapid tire wear in the rear. When Acura was subsequently sued for rapid tire wear, they changed the specs to 4 mm of rear toe in, to provide greater tire life at the expense of slightly less precise handling, and they made them retroactive for all years. Some folks use even less rear toe in, for even more tire life (and even less precise handling).
The OEM tires for the NSX are the Yokohama A022H and the Bridgestone RE010 (yes, same model as the ITR). They were designed for the car, and for specific corners of the car. The belts are biased to work with the NSX alignment. The compound is different front vs rear. These OEM tires make a major contribution to the NSX's incredibly precise handling. They don't last all that long, though. Some folks choose to use non-OEM tires, in order to extend treadlife while offering somewhat less precise handling (yes, just like the alignment settings) - everything from expensive, top-of-the-line tires like the Bridgestone S-03, to less expensive tires like the Yokohama ES100 and the Kumho Ecsta Supra 712.
With the original, aggressive alignment settings and the OEM tires, typical treadlife for driving them on the street is 4-8K miles in the rear, and double that in the front. If you use less aggressive alignment settings and aftermarket tires, you can double the rear treadlife to 8-16K miles, while the front will be more, but not double; say 12-20K miles.
I take my NSX to track events, so I use the more aggressive original alignment settings. For many years, I was using the OEM tires on the track, as well as on the street to and from the track. I know my treadlife is less than a street-only NSX because of the track use. I was getting 3-4K total miles, including 500-800 actual track miles, on a set of rears, and 8-10K total miles, including 1200-1800 actual track miles, on a set of fronts. I actually had one rear set that was down to the belts before I reached 3000 miles.
Yes, but a lot of parts really aren't that expensive anyway. Oil filters, yes but they're still inexpensive (~$11 vs ~$5). Oil, it takes an extra quart, and uses 10W30. Front brake pads are the exact same size and shape as the ITR; the stock pads are more expensive (I don't know why), but if you're using aftermarket pads, they cost the same (because they are the same). Tires cost more because they are larger sizes - so they will cost you more for the tire cost as well as the greater frequency of replacement. Clutches are fairly expensive (~$1200). Body parts are expensive but you generally don't replace them except in an accident, when they're covered by insurance.
You can look up parts costs on all the usual Acura websites, like A&H, Acura Carland, Sunnyside, etc.
I am told that you can fit two golf bags in the NSX trunk. I haven't tried it, because I don't golf. But I know that you can fit a set of four stock-sized track tires inside the NSX and drive them to the track on your street tires.
Insurance for an early NSX can indeed be less than for an ITR.
Originally Posted by swlabhot
Tires really wear out that quick on the X? What the average road use mileage on the rears?
The original specs on the NSX when it was introduced called for toe out in front, and 6 mm of toe in, in the rear. They give great handling and precise cornering, at the expense of rapid tire wear in the rear. When Acura was subsequently sued for rapid tire wear, they changed the specs to 4 mm of rear toe in, to provide greater tire life at the expense of slightly less precise handling, and they made them retroactive for all years. Some folks use even less rear toe in, for even more tire life (and even less precise handling).
The OEM tires for the NSX are the Yokohama A022H and the Bridgestone RE010 (yes, same model as the ITR). They were designed for the car, and for specific corners of the car. The belts are biased to work with the NSX alignment. The compound is different front vs rear. These OEM tires make a major contribution to the NSX's incredibly precise handling. They don't last all that long, though. Some folks choose to use non-OEM tires, in order to extend treadlife while offering somewhat less precise handling (yes, just like the alignment settings) - everything from expensive, top-of-the-line tires like the Bridgestone S-03, to less expensive tires like the Yokohama ES100 and the Kumho Ecsta Supra 712.
With the original, aggressive alignment settings and the OEM tires, typical treadlife for driving them on the street is 4-8K miles in the rear, and double that in the front. If you use less aggressive alignment settings and aftermarket tires, you can double the rear treadlife to 8-16K miles, while the front will be more, but not double; say 12-20K miles.
I take my NSX to track events, so I use the more aggressive original alignment settings. For many years, I was using the OEM tires on the track, as well as on the street to and from the track. I know my treadlife is less than a street-only NSX because of the track use. I was getting 3-4K total miles, including 500-800 actual track miles, on a set of rears, and 8-10K total miles, including 1200-1800 actual track miles, on a set of fronts. I actually had one rear set that was down to the belts before I reached 3000 miles.
Originally Posted by swlabhot
Surely the parts on the X costs much more than the R?
You can look up parts costs on all the usual Acura websites, like A&H, Acura Carland, Sunnyside, etc.
Originally Posted by yoshi234
Can't carry a golf bag
Insurance for an early NSX can indeed be less than for an ITR.
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Re: An R for an NSX (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am told that you can fit two golf bags in the NSX trunk. I haven't tried it, because I don't golf. But I know that you can fit a set of four stock-sized track tires inside the NSX and drive them to the track on your street tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh chit, j00 shouldn't have let me know
y shi - who now thinks in light of new info from ken that 234's days are numbered
oh chit, j00 shouldn't have let me know
y
shi - who now thinks in light of new info from ken that 234's days are numbered
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Re: An R for an NSX (yoshi234)
I was close to buying a nsx when I was shopping for my ITR. I still think about trading up.
My main concern is it being soo low. I dont think it could make it up my driveway without scraping, and I also need something that can get through the occasional snow fall.
Also, the 91's and 92's I'm looking at looked jacked up a little. So I would have to buy springs, and new wheels for it, so add $3k or so more onto the price.
My main concern is it being soo low. I dont think it could make it up my driveway without scraping, and I also need something that can get through the occasional snow fall.
Also, the 91's and 92's I'm looking at looked jacked up a little. So I would have to buy springs, and new wheels for it, so add $3k or so more onto the price.
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Re: An R for an NSX (jond)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My main concern is it being soo low. I dont think it could make it up my driveway without scraping, and I also need something that can get through the occasional snow fall.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, it scrapes entering sloped driveways; you get really good at taking these at an angle. Lowered NSXs are worse in this regard. Fortunately, the front chin spoiler is inexpensive (~$100) and easily replaceable.
No, it's not good in snow. You could get winter tires for it... but that's one of my reasons why it doesn't make sense as an "only car".
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, the 91's and 92's I'm looking at looked jacked up a little. So I would have to buy springs, and new wheels for it, so add $3k or so more onto the price.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure what you mean by "jacked up a little". With stock ride height, the car is only 46 inches tall. There's no need to buy springs unless you insist on lowering it (and again, I wouldn't do that if scraping the front end is a concern). Wheels are a matter of personal preference, of course (and a lot of NSXs already have aftermarket wheels). A lot of folks buy sets of the '94-01 wheels for $1-2K (depending on condition), or you can go aftermarket.
The bigger concern with the early NSXs - particularly the ones selling in the twenties - is that many of them have been poorly maintained. For example, the timing belt is supposed to be changed at 90K miles or 6 years, yet on many early NSXs, it still hasn't been done, which means it's now 6-7 years overdue.
I think it's worth it to spend a little more for an early NSX that has been well maintained and has relatively lower mileage, than one with a low purchase price. (Average mileage on NSXs is about 5K miles per year.)
Yes, it scrapes entering sloped driveways; you get really good at taking these at an angle. Lowered NSXs are worse in this regard. Fortunately, the front chin spoiler is inexpensive (~$100) and easily replaceable.
No, it's not good in snow. You could get winter tires for it... but that's one of my reasons why it doesn't make sense as an "only car".
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, the 91's and 92's I'm looking at looked jacked up a little. So I would have to buy springs, and new wheels for it, so add $3k or so more onto the price.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure what you mean by "jacked up a little". With stock ride height, the car is only 46 inches tall. There's no need to buy springs unless you insist on lowering it (and again, I wouldn't do that if scraping the front end is a concern). Wheels are a matter of personal preference, of course (and a lot of NSXs already have aftermarket wheels). A lot of folks buy sets of the '94-01 wheels for $1-2K (depending on condition), or you can go aftermarket.
The bigger concern with the early NSXs - particularly the ones selling in the twenties - is that many of them have been poorly maintained. For example, the timing belt is supposed to be changed at 90K miles or 6 years, yet on many early NSXs, it still hasn't been done, which means it's now 6-7 years overdue.
I think it's worth it to spend a little more for an early NSX that has been well maintained and has relatively lower mileage, than one with a low purchase price. (Average mileage on NSXs is about 5K miles per year.)
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Re: An R for an NSX (fangtl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fangtl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Golf bag in a NSX? Never!
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Who says you "need" a passenger.
I know that there's plenty of times I'd love to swap my wife with the golf bag.
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I know that there's plenty of times I'd love to swap my wife with the golf bag.
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Re: An R for an NSX (swlabhot)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swlabhot »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who would trade their R for an NSX. No not a straight trade but u gotta pay the extra $$$ for a stocker NSX (91-95') plus trade in your highly modded RRRR.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I won`t.. Why should I swap a new car from 2000 for a ten years old car ??? If I take my NSX to track and kiss the wall and warp the alu-chassis... OMG. To get it fixed would eat me up.. no no no..
If I want something faster, I find some newer Evo or whatever...
A 91-95 NSX is a toy for old boys who can`t afford the italian style. Nice car though.
I won`t.. Why should I swap a new car from 2000 for a ten years old car ??? If I take my NSX to track and kiss the wall and warp the alu-chassis... OMG. To get it fixed would eat me up.. no no no..
If I want something faster, I find some newer Evo or whatever...
A 91-95 NSX is a toy for old boys who can`t afford the italian style. Nice car though.
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Re: An R for an NSX (ITR5874)
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Spoken like someone who has never driven one.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR5874 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A 91-95 NSX is a toy for old boys who can`t afford the italian style.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Many of us - young and old - can afford the Italian cars; in fact, quite a few NSX owners are former Ferrari owners. What does that tell you?
Great to hear the same kind of ignorant comments and ridiculous stereotypes about the NSX that we hear all the time about the ITR.
Spoken like someone who has never driven one.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR5874 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A 91-95 NSX is a toy for old boys who can`t afford the italian style.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Many of us - young and old - can afford the Italian cars; in fact, quite a few NSX owners are former Ferrari owners. What does that tell you?
Great to hear the same kind of ignorant comments and ridiculous stereotypes about the NSX that we hear all the time about the ITR.
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Re: An R for an NSX (MiraiZ)
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= my dream car.... (droooool)
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Re: An R for an NSX (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With the original, aggressive alignment settings and the OEM tires, typical treadlife for driving them on the street is 4-8K miles in the rear, and double that in the front. If you use less aggressive alignment settings and aftermarket tires, you can double the rear treadlife to 8-16K miles, while the front will be more, but not double; say 12-20K miles.
I take my NSX to track events, so I use the more aggressive original alignment settings. For many years, I was using the OEM tires on the track, as well as on the street to and from the track. I know my treadlife is less than a street-only NSX because of the track use. I was getting 3-4K total miles, including 500-800 actual track miles, on a set of rears, and 8-10K total miles, including 1200-1800 actual track miles, on a set of fronts. I actually had one rear set that was down to the belts before I reached 3000 miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The tire life is . I didn't expect it to last but changing every 3k miles is quite frightening. Personally if I spend that much on a car I would not compromise at all on tires so will only get the best despite the additional cost.
With the extra toe in does that also increase the road-tire noise on it?
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Spoken like someone who has never driven one.
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Only cos he would like one REALLY but could not afford one
I take my NSX to track events, so I use the more aggressive original alignment settings. For many years, I was using the OEM tires on the track, as well as on the street to and from the track. I know my treadlife is less than a street-only NSX because of the track use. I was getting 3-4K total miles, including 500-800 actual track miles, on a set of rears, and 8-10K total miles, including 1200-1800 actual track miles, on a set of fronts. I actually had one rear set that was down to the belts before I reached 3000 miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The tire life is
. I didn't expect it to last but changing every 3k miles is quite frightening. Personally if I spend that much on a car I would not compromise at all on tires so will only get the best despite the additional cost. With the extra toe in does that also increase the road-tire noise on it?
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Spoken like someone who has never driven one.
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Only cos he would like one REALLY but could not afford one
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Re: An R for an NSX (nsxtasy)
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Many of us - young and old - can afford the Italian cars; in fact, quite a few NSX owners are former Ferrari owners. What does that tell you?
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That they like to drive their cars?
That was too easy...
Many of us - young and old - can afford the Italian cars; in fact, quite a few NSX owners are former Ferrari owners. What does that tell you?
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That they like to drive their cars?
That was too easy...
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Re: An R for an NSX (nsxtasy)
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Spoken like someone who has never driven one.
Many of us - young and old - can afford the Italian cars; in fact, quite a few NSX owners are former Ferrari owners. What does that tell you?
Great to hear the same kind of ignorant comments and ridiculous stereotypes about the NSX that we hear all the time about the ITR.
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LOL!
Different countries, different styles....
1st)
NSX is not new to me. Idol Motorsport develops exhausts and suspensions for every sporty Honda... This is our suspension kit for the NSX:
http://www.idol-motorsport.de/...x.jpg
2nd)
NSX is not a matter of the CAR. It`s the matter of who YOU are.
If you drive a Ferrari here, you are forced to pay hell for insurance and service... The cost for one year in my pocket and I can buy another car for that money. I know two guys who owned Ferraris because they wanted it sooo much only once in a lifetime. After one year getting called "*******" by their friends and paying a lot of money just to own a Ferrari, they sold it and bought a Porsche or a Bimmer or whatever.. maybe an NSX.
This just to answer your question:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What does that tell you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
People who buy a `95 NSX sit between two chairs... The Civic drivers hate them and the Ferrari drivers don`t get them serious. Even the Porsche drivers like to smile and say.." maybe you`ll grow up and drive some real car one day. But until then, get out of my way, sweet boy".
As I said above: Different countries, different people.
Two answer the question again:
I would not trade in my 2000ITR for an old NSX just to pay more, be hated by the ones, be laughed at by the others. That won`t be logical. People compare the ITR to other small performance cars and it gets repect. They compare the NSX to Ferraris and Porsches and it doesn`t get anything.
Why should I care to what people say ? I don`t want to but life gets really hard if you totally ignore what people think about you when they first meet you (especially in business questions). It`s really hard to become a so called "wannabe". No car is worth that.
Spoken like someone who has never driven one.
Many of us - young and old - can afford the Italian cars; in fact, quite a few NSX owners are former Ferrari owners. What does that tell you?
Great to hear the same kind of ignorant comments and ridiculous stereotypes about the NSX that we hear all the time about the ITR.
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LOL!
Different countries, different styles....
1st)
NSX is not new to me. Idol Motorsport develops exhausts and suspensions for every sporty Honda... This is our suspension kit for the NSX:
http://www.idol-motorsport.de/...x.jpg
2nd)
NSX is not a matter of the CAR. It`s the matter of who YOU are.
If you drive a Ferrari here, you are forced to pay hell for insurance and service... The cost for one year in my pocket and I can buy another car for that money. I know two guys who owned Ferraris because they wanted it sooo much only once in a lifetime. After one year getting called "*******" by their friends and paying a lot of money just to own a Ferrari, they sold it and bought a Porsche or a Bimmer or whatever.. maybe an NSX.
This just to answer your question:
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People who buy a `95 NSX sit between two chairs... The Civic drivers hate them and the Ferrari drivers don`t get them serious. Even the Porsche drivers like to smile and say.." maybe you`ll grow up and drive some real car one day. But until then, get out of my way, sweet boy".
As I said above: Different countries, different people.
Two answer the question again:
I would not trade in my 2000ITR for an old NSX just to pay more, be hated by the ones, be laughed at by the others. That won`t be logical. People compare the ITR to other small performance cars and it gets repect. They compare the NSX to Ferraris and Porsches and it doesn`t get anything.
Why should I care to what people say ? I don`t want to but life gets really hard if you totally ignore what people think about you when they first meet you (especially in business questions). It`s really hard to become a so called "wannabe". No car is worth that.